[OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever

Wed Oct 24 13:06:18 PDT 2012

<grin>  only two harrison, is my hope... every host MUST specify (1) an X
on the map where they will be, and (2) the TIME that they will be there
looking for us.  after that, anything is possible AND nothing is necessary!

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Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
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http://MichaelHerman.com
http://OpenSpaceWorld.org

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

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> *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Herrmann
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:11 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever****
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> Thanks for all sharing in this circle – I come back as a bumblebee bzzzzzz
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> I think WOSonOS is a nice breathing in, as a community. An anchoring point
> for our community to connect as a whole – yes everyone cannot be present
> physically, but to me it’s something special even if I cannot join and
> usually there are options to connect via other media. I think the OS-list
> is another one of these anchoring points that hold our community together
> as a whole.****
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> I think it’s up to the host to decide how to organize although I expect we
> stick to “OST by the book”. The rest is up to the passion of the host – and
> I love the extras offered. Good to keep in mind though, to give maximum
> freedom maximum choice. ****
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> I would also enjoy a really simple WOSonOS. I can see the risk of
> expectations rising for each WOSonOS but if we keep on reminding ourselves
> about – one less thing to do – we should be able to remember that option.
> So, this is an important breakout sessions – as they all are.****
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> I guess it’s free to anyone (passion and responsibility) to work on
> creating guidelines, if anyone think that is needed. There might be a break
> out group preparing a proposal, presenting it to the community – then, I
> don’t know if we can make a community decision but we might find out J Or
> this conversation might be all that we need.****
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> I don’t see WOSonOS being something hindering OSonOS’ – we just had our 10
> th Annual Scandinavian=1st Nordic, as it now transformed to Nordic
> (NOSonOS) when our Finnish neighbors joined taking turns organizing. Every
> time we have had an invitation to facilitators from “Scandinavia/Nordic
> countries and from elsewhere in the world”. So there we have some more
> contributions to the list of OSonOS’ – wow it’s growing!****
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> yes yes to all of the considerations you've outlined here, lisa.  in the
> last few years, i've been suggesting to people that facilitating open space
> is a practice in making choices... having so little pre-set structure means
> we are resting in making choices about how to be all through the event...
> and asking participants to do that too.****
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> on the chairs bit, as an example of how obvious things can have unintended
> effects, in my first open space, for about 120 people, i set out several
> circles of 15 chairs.  some groups met with only three people, not
> surprisingly.  but this was a group that didn't now each other very well.
>  several of those big breakout circles ended up staying big, and people sat
> far apart, keeping their distance.  maybe they chose that, maybe not.  but
> every os since then, i mark breakout spaces with stacks of chairs near the
> corners and just three chairs pushed completely together, front corners all
> touching, so that anyone who meets there will definitely make the choice
> for themselves.  it's a small thing, but i like to look out at the shape of
> the circles and know that everybody chose that shape.****
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> also, i often advise community groups (no or very small central budget)
> like ours that food is not the necessity that it would seem.  food options
> are critical, of course, if the event is any length at all... but that's
> very different and much more work and guessing and expense than simply
> choosing a location where any participant can pop out any time and pick
> from a variety of food establishments.  the first four osonos gatherings,
> the only no-driving option was the hotel dining room, but there were many
> choices on the menu and the cost was completely determined by each
> participant.  no money was collected as part of the registration, no menu
> choices made, no food budget calculated, no food preferences/restrictions
> tabulated, and so on.  sometimes there is some reason to bring food in and
> stay deep in the work, but more often than not, and always at osonos i
> think, there is real value in letting everyone keep their food allowance to
> themselves and organize their own meal excursions, in whatever groups or
> solos they might choose.  ****
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> and to harold's earlier point about love and joy, even those can be a
> two-edged sword... i might really want to cook you dinner, but if it's food
> you'd rather not eat, or at a time or place you'd not choose for yourself,
> the gift is not so great.  the greatest gift we can give, i think, is space
> and choices.****
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> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Lisa Heft <lisaheft at openingspace.net>
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> I am glad that this session at the WOSonOS also talked about what is lost
> if chairs are not used, and what is created if chairs are used.****
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> I for one would not be able to attend a session without chairs.****
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> Which is fine - whoever comes. But the removal of chairs would remove me
> from having the option to join that particular discussion.****
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> So Whoever Comes would not be me, and not by my choice.****
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> My hope is that with every single detail we think about adjusting,
> dropping or adding - we simply think for a moment (before doing it) why we
> are doing / not doing it, who and what it serves, what will be added or
> offset by our doing it. Is it because of cost? Then what are the other
> creative things we can do about cost. Is it about freedom? Then is it a
> projection of our own individual sense of freedom and felt by others the
> same way? Is it about providing resources? Then what resources can we
> gather or make visible that diverse kinds of participants can choose so
> that they, too, are Whoever Comes?****
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> My sadness about where 'one less thing' means less inclusion... turns to
> happiness when more thought and creativity creates more opportunity...****
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> I am all for simple, and for not doing 'for' people while facilitating an
> Open Space. But as a host of Open Space or any other dialogic process - I
> like to practice thinking of the complexity of what it is that I cannot see
> but can provide options for... And as a participant in Open Space or any
> other dialogic process, I notice when someone like me - or someone not like
> me - has been giving the richness of choice, comfort and access.****
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> Loving this conversation...****
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> Lisa****
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> On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Harold Shinsato wrote:****
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> http://www.devotedanddisgruntled.com/events/world-open-space-open-space/reports/os-circles-opening-evening-news-break-ups-without/
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> The last one was about doing open space without chairs. That's a cool
> conversation because removing chairs brings options for lower cost.****
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