[OSList] How do we manage time in an evening+morning shortish OS? (II part of:: How do we invite key and high conflicted people?)

Suzanne Daigle sdaigle4 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 15 01:55:00 PST 2012


Wonderful Eleder! Loved reading this and feeling the energy of the group.
On Nov 15, 2012 4:40 AM, "Eleder_BuM" <eleder.aurtenetxe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi lovely people around! Some lines with feedback of one OS meeting I
> presented on the list.
>
> The Open Space meeting in Zerain has been fantastic and has offered us
> some learning also. Here you can watch a picture of the opening in the
> church of the village and read the conversations´ reports<http://zerainherrieredua.wordpress.com/>.
> Have you got any Basque speaker around? A good chance to approach her/him
> for a coffee,.. :o)!
>
> At last, no one from "the critics" came. They were invited, they liked the
> idea,... but no one came around. Would they have come if we as facilitators
> had met them in a previous meeting? How could we have the sponsors and
> thier critics to think the big question and write and expand the invitation
> together?
>
> Sponsors seemed easy with this, though, ("we invited them, we would have
> liked them in,... but whoever comes,...". Yes, the 1st principle brought
> them a big amount of serenity...:o)!
>
> Maybe next time? This will be an important issue in the evaluation meeting.
>
> People loved OS. Many of them said at the closing thinks like...
> "I was very afraid of such a long meeting,... and it happened to feel
> short..."
> "I was afraid of one more fashion technique, that tend to be mainly
> bubbles,... but this felt very simple and deep stuff..."
>
> After reading your wise advice, finally, I opted to open the possibility
> for new subjects+action proposals during the second morning (The OS, was
> Friday 16:00-21:00 + Saturday 10:00-14:00). The group stayed in just more
> conversations (not much action proposed yet), with some inspirations for
> future action,  yes. My learning here was clear. As Lisa had suggested, it
> would have been easier for me to propose from the beginning a just
> conversation OS. Perhaps asking (in the last 30 minutes before the closing)
> for action ideas and quick multivoting, maybe .
>
> Thanks so much for your support,
>
> xoxo,
>
> @Eleder_BuM <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM>
>
> pd: I co-facilitated with someone new to OS, but very experienced in other
> kinds of facilitation, Asier Gallastegi <http://korapilatzen.com/blog/>,
> and the work as a tandem was fantastic. I (no car) even drove his car (he
> has no licence) :D! Besides, he has done a great visual documenting work,
> and we´ll be editing and publishing it soon.
>
>
>
>
>
> 2012/10/23 Eleder_BuM <eleder.aurtenetxe at gmail.com>
>
>> Some weeks ago I asked some questions regarding and OS in which we had a
>> big concern: how to invite a small and conflicted group (you can see the
>> message below),... After a conversation beween both parts it seems that
>> this group is willing to come to the OS.
>>
>> Now I come with another question.
>>
>>    - the subject is quite broad (*The self-managing model of our town:
>>    how do we make it a continually innovating one? *. You can see
>>    context and subject below).
>>    - we have scheduled Friday (16:00-21:00) & Saturday (10:00-14:00),
>>    shiortish I would say, for such a wide topic and conflicted context,...
>>    - we told the promotors that we would have action proposals and first
>>    meetings during the second morning... and I´m thinking now that might be an
>>    error.  I´m afraid that  we are giving too short time for just
>>    conversations as they emerge, forcing a bit all the stuff to have a report
>>    with *recommended actions*
>>
>> The thing as we had proposed would be sth like:
>>
>> Friday 15:30 reception; 16: openinng; 17: first convs; 18: 15; 2nd convs;
>> 19: 30: 3rd convs 20: 45 evening news
>>
>> Saturday: 10:00 morning anouncements; 10:30 Action proposals 11:00 Action
>> teams meetings 12:30 Action teams short reports 13:00 closing
>>
>> *I would like better now sth more spaced and real* (things tend to delay
>> a bit around here :o), like:
>>
>> Friday 15:30 reception; 16: openinng; 17:30 first convs; 19:00 2nd convs;
>> 20:30 evening news
>>
>> Saturday: 10:00 morning anouncements; *10:30 3rd convs *(from first day
>> proposals)* 12:00 Action proposals+meetings+short reporting *13:30
>> closing
>>
>> but this kind of Saturday morning would be new to me, combining stuff
>> from first day proposals with time for action proposals,...convening the
>> big dircle at midday 12:00 for new action proposals,...  and I feel a bit
>> unsure that would be working fine...
>>
>> Any similar experience? Any suggestions?
>>
>> Love,
>>
>> ** <https://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM>@Eleder_BuM
>>  www.flowandshow.blogspot.com (En) www.burumapak.blogspot.com (Basque)
>> www.in-fluyendo.blogspot.com (Sp) www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz (radio)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Context:
>> A 300 people´s village council. They are proud for their 40 years
>> experience of self-management, very common in the ancient Basque tradition,
>> but very uncommon here, these days. Every 4 years people that want to get
>> involved in the administration will appear, and citizens choose (before the
>> official polls) who will be the representatives. Then the 7 people  more
>> voted form the only list on the official polls and form the ruling team for
>> the next 4 years.
>>
>> Then, some 8 self-managed and executive teams are formed (whoever comes
>> been the right people; nowadays some 60-80 people taking part
>> regularly),...
>>
>> Political parties -that rule the neighbour towns- have no word here.
>> "It´s just we the people who govern ourselves".
>>
>> Sponsor:
>> The 7 elected people that now are ruling. 6 amateurs, just one technician
>> paid.
>>
>> Subject:  *The self-managing model of our town: how do we make it a
>> continually innovating one? *
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Eleder_BuM <eleder.aurtenetxe at gmail.com>
>> Date: 2012/9/14
>> Subject: How do we invite key and high conflicted people?
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
>> OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>
>>
>> Hi all !
>>
>> Last day we had the first meeting with the sponsors of a 1´5 OS. We
>> expect som 70 participants.
>> We could define the subject, dates (9th & 10th Nov). We designed the
>> invitation text and process. We arranged for the logistics,...
>>
>> There´s still something important un solved. I´ll try to explain it
>> shortly:
>>
>> Context:
>> A 300 people´s village council. They are proud for their 40 years
>> experience of self-management, very common in the ancient Basque tradition,
>> but very uncommon here, these days. Every 4 years people that want to get
>> involved in the administration will appear, and citizens choose (before the
>> official polls) who will be the representatives. Then the 7 people  more
>> voted form the only list on the official polls and form the ruling team for
>> the next 4 years.
>>
>> Then, some 8 self-managed and executive teams are formed (whoever comes
>> been the right people; nowadays some 60-80 people taking part
>> regularly),...
>>
>> Political parties -that rule the neighbour towns- have no word here.
>> "It´s just we the people who govern ourselves".
>>
>> Sponsor:
>> The 7 elected people that now are ruling. 6 amateurs, just one technician
>> paid.
>>
>> Subject:  *The self-managing model of our town: how do we make it a
>> continually innovating one? *
>>
>> There´s *a group of some 10 people highly opposed to the managing and
>> ruling model*. They have become a problem for the ruling team. The mayor
>> said on the meeting: *"I would like to sleep well after taking
>> decissions..."*. They are part of main political parties and are said to
>> be planning to "break the self-management tradition ". Last months they
>> have written and put in the post-boxes of the neighbours very critical
>> annonimous writings against the council team,...
>>
>> Invitation:
>>
>> The sponsors want* to have all the people from the town rethink, adapt,
>> their model. They want that everyone feels part of it. They want that even
>> the minorities can feel represented. *
>>
>> But they say that "the others" just usually say ·*"I don´t like this;
>> neither this; neither this,... "* but don´t help to solve anything.
>>
>> We´ll invite, too, people from outside the village to enrich the
>> conversations, bring some fresh air and new views,...
>>
>> Problem:
>> They think that this "10 opponents" will probably refuse coming. Everyone
>> of us agreed that the OS would be richer if they take part. That conflict
>> could transform in great new process,...
>>
>> During the meeting we agreed that the person of the sponsors (council
>> team of 7) in best terms with the "leader" of the opponents would meet her
>> and explain that the OS will be a good opportunity to find solutions to the
>> conflict and grow for everyone,...
>>
>> Some questions:
>>
>>    - how would you act as facilitators?
>>    - Should we just wait and see?
>>    - If, as expected, they decline the invitation, should we as
>>    "neutral" facilitators have another try to have then come?
>>    - Should we contact the sponsors before they meet the opponents and
>>    ask to be present during this invitation meeting?
>>    - Could it be better to tell the sponsor "let us contact the
>>    opponents directly and meet them, as you are part of the conflict and they
>>    will probably refuse you"?
>>    - Could we invite them to co-write the invitation, to take part in
>>    the designing process?...
>>
>> After several OS processes facilitated since Berlin, this one is probably
>> the one that best fits the 5 conditions for OS... it has deep conflict! I´m
>> eager with it, yeah! And I would really love to have *all *the system in
>> the room, and the highly conflicted minority are an important part, I
>> guess...
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Enjoy this great day,
>>
>> Eleder
>>
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>> www.burumapak.blogspot.com
>> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com
>>  <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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