[OSList] My first OS

Fri Apr 6 18:15:57 PDT 2012

Child is father of the man.

Both children and adults would learn about themselves if the theme is
inviting the both group.

Appreciatively,

spark
2012. 4. 6. 오후 8:58에 "Marie Ann Östlund" <marieann.ostlund at gmail.com>님이 작성:

> Thanks for all your insights and advice! It makes sense to be flexible
> to the situation and adjust time slots to the needs of the group,
> sometimes mixing their length (if not too much to confuse them). And
> Eva: "why didn't they continue the session?" Exactly! I guess they
> wanted to go to the next one, but you're right - they could have
> continued....
>
> Harrison: Yes, children got it! The challenge, I guess, are the
> parents - and now that they got this experience they might see how
> children can be part of it. This is great.
>
> But at what age have you included children in open space? These were 7-8-9
> yrs.
>
> Marie Ann
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Diane Gibeault
> <diane.gibeault at rogers.com> wrote:
> > I agree with you Chris.
> >
> > If I have limitations, I will favor a longer 1st round (1h30 or
> minimally 75
> > min) for flexibility in the opening, also giving time for participants to
> > choose topics at the market place and get to their group (can take more
> time
> > since they are not yet familiar with the process and the physical space).
> >
> > Diane
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Chris Corrigan <chris at chriscorrigan.com>
> >
> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:00:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [OSList] My first OS
> >
> > Echoing many things said here.  Congrats on your first one, and yes to
> the
> > kids noticing passion and responsibility showing up.
> >
> > I like to err on the side of more time in the sessions.  With 1.5 hour
> > sessions, we have a nice breath in the agenda and people can take as
> much or
> > as little time as they need.  An hour for me is usually the minimum, but
> > I've even had 75 minute sessions instead of 60.
> >
> > Of course all this depends on context and so on, and with very large
> groups
> > anything less than 1.5 hours makes things very difficult logistically,
> and
> > with groups working on well defined issues, 45 mins can work very well.
> >
> > Chris.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Marie -- Many thanks for sharing! And I loved the part about the
> children at
> > the end. My finding: Kids do get Open Space -- more better, quicker, and
> > deeper than their (sometimes) recalcitrant parents. Next time try just
> > treating them like people along with everybody else. We had some young
> > people at our recent OSONOS in Manila. They raised provocative issues
> (not
> > just about "young people") and convened rich (mostly adult participants)
> > sessions. No problems and lots of good surprise!
> >
> > Harrison
> >
> > Harrison Owen
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.
> > Potomac, MD 20854
> > USA
> >
> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> > Camden, Maine 20854
> >
> > Phone 301-365-2093
> > (summer)  207-763-3261
> >
> > www.openspaceworld.com
> > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST
> > Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> > [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Marie Ann
> > Östlund
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:20 AM
> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > Subject: [OSList] My first OS
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I sent this letter Saturday but it got stuck as I had added a photo to
> it,
> > but here it is again:
> >
> > There is only one open space that will be the first, even if all of them
> > certainly will be unique. Since I facilitated my first open space last
> > weekend March 23-24, I thought to write something about it. I find this
> > email list both generous and helpful, and I admire the way you're all
> > supporting each other. In any case, here is my little peanut of a
> > contribution to the OSList bowl.
> >
> > I held the open space at the Hare Krishna farm/village community in
> Sweden
> > (Järna), which hosts around 35 adults and 30 kids (most of them below
> 10!).
> > There are mostly independent families with kids living there. I had
> > suggested to them that they try OS. A few of them got it immediately, but
> > there was some scepticism as they suffer from quite some meeting-fatigue
> .
> >
> > Some desired we hold it around the spring equinox and an astrologer
> pointed
> > out the weekend after as excellent, if we could start on the Friday.
> > Considering people's work commitments, that they are early risers, the
> > children, we decided to hold a short inauguration of the meetings in the
> > evening instead of starting the OS or doing some storytelling. They
> arranged
> > for some recitation of mantras and chanting, and the children led a big
> part
> > of it. They were so good! We also had some food, and the whole thing was
> > really appreciated.
> >
> > The main challenge for the community in regards to the meeting was to
> engage
> > the children so that the parents could attend. In the end they sorted
> > something out by themselves (as is of course the best).
> >
> > By the end of the weekend (it was a 1 1/2 day event) they were surprised
> of
> > how relaxed the meetings were while being very efficient.
> > They experienced how OS got them into a collaborative instead of an
> > adversarial mood, and had a really good time. They would like to continue
> > the process. They also noticed who did not come and started to think more
> > deeply about who feels included and who does not. It's nice to see how OS
> > creates the clarity needed for action.
> >
> > Some learnings/reflections:
> >
> > We did one hour sessions, which was too short for some topics. Next we
> time
> > we could use 1 1/2hrs per session. Anyone having experiences of mixing
> the
> > length of time, like using 1 1/2 hr sessions in the morning and 1hr
> sessions
> > in the afternoon?
> >
> > I could do a better introduction. I didn't prepare enough, and what I had
> > prepared was in English - and had to switch to Swedish on the spot. I
> think
> > simplicity really is the key, and getting out of the way. :)
> >
> > One person took the opportunity to organise a meeting demanding parents
> > attendance. I let that go, as they were discussing an important topic for
> > them. He also organised another one like that, but this time people voted
> > with their feet. I should have been more alert to this.
> >
> > In the end, some kids sat by me drawing, and one started to come up with
> his
> > own topics. I then gave them a part of the wall and asked what they
> wanted
> > and they came up with really good stuff. I think they were really
> pleased to
> > be asked. They wanted e.g. a more quiet temple room and less running
> around
> > in it, which surprised me as they usually are the cause to the
> cacophony. It
> > was a great learning, both in terms of how kids can do OS quite
> effectively,
> > and how it's so much better to create the ground rules together than
> > dictating them. And as someone told me afterwards, the 'cause' of a
> problem
> > should be included in solving it as they are the experts in it.
> >
> > I hope you're well. We're getting some snow tomorrow in Stockholm, but
> are
> > still keeping our hopes for spring alive! Happy Easter!
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Marie Ann Östlund
> >
> > PS. A few pictures of the weekend:
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150663955813785.392314.730693784
> > &type=3&l=29b6f85440
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe
> send an
> > email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ---
> > CHRIS CORRIGAN
> > Facilitation - Training - Process Design
> > Open Space Technology
> >
> > Weblog: http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot
> > Site: http://www.chriscorrigan.com
> >
> > Upcoming workshops (click for invitations)
> >
> > Art of Hosting Water dialogues
> > (for people involved with water issues)
> > April 13-15, 2012, Bowen Island BC, Canada
> >
> >
> > YET: the improv-based facilitation course you have always wanted to take!
> > September 2012, Bowen Island, BC, Canada
> > (email me for more information)
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20120407/6b025ef9/attachment-0008.htm>