[OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking

Phelim McDermott phelim at mac.com
Mon Dec 12 19:04:35 PST 2011


Also as I think I've mentioned here before. Charles Marowitz formed the Open Space theatre in '68 I think. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Theatre


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Phelim McDermott

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On 12 Dec 2011, at 20:01, Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com> wrote:

> I believe so, though I'm not 100% sure when they started using the term.  It is referenced in the wikipedia article on Fred Emery:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Emery
> 
> Peggy
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Birgitt Williams wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Peggy. Did they also refer to it as OST?
>> Blessings,
>> Birgitt
>>  
>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Holman
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 6:26 PM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking
>>  
>> Birgitt,
>>  
>> The term open systems theory was used by Ludwig von Bertalanffy in the 1950's.
>>  
>> Emery and Trist started using the term in the 1960's.
>>  
>> Peggy
>>  
>>  
>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Birgitt Williams wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Looking deeper into the website, Artur, it is not at all clear who these people with OST (Open Systems Thinking) are. What they have at one point in their documents, however, is an article by Emery about Open Systems Thinking with reference that it is OST. I find this odd because Emery, also a highly regarded thought leader in organizational development, is well aware of OST as Open Space Technology.
>>  
>> Ah well. As Harrison says, OST is not trademarked. However, all of his books including Open Space Technology are copyrighted (also a legal designation). And despite the copyrighting, it is not worth defending as OST is out there sufficiently in the world as Open Space Technology already.
>>  
>> One reason that I am such a stickler about using ‘Open Space Technology’ rather than the shortened form ‘Open Space’ is that there is even more confusion about ‘Open Space’ as applied to this meeting method since Open Space as a term was used long before OST came along…especially in architecture and landscape architecture. I think that the more we all are careful about mentioning ‘Open Space Technology’, the more that there is a common recognition of a fabulous meeting facilitation method.
>>  
>> Birgitt
>>  
>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:45 AM
>> To: 'Artur Silva'; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking
>>  
>> Never heard of them. Thank God I never patented or trademarked OST.  Just imagine all the trouble I would be in defending the indefensible – or something. Much more fun just to give it all away. And you certainly meet incredibly interesting people J
>>  
>> ho
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>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Artur Silva
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 9:52 AM
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>> Subject: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking
>>  
>> Hi:
>>  
>> Have any of you ever heard about this?
>>  
>> OST - OPEN SYSTEMS THINKING:
>> http://www.thelightonthehill.com/
>>  
>> Interesting...
>>  
>> Regards
>>  
>> Artur
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