OSLIST with many languages or using the NING for that?

Erich Kolenaty e.kolenaty at aon.at
Wed May 26 01:39:20 PDT 2010 

MIchael, (to spend you some more fun)

da ist was dran. Viele Sprachen zu hören und zu lesen macht mich immer 
wieder Staunen, wie vielfältig die Welt doch ist.
Ich spüre auch selbst die Erleichterung, die es mit sich bringt, sich 
einfach und unkompliziert in seiner Muttersprache ausdrücken zu können.
Andererseits lässt es mich der Sprachwirrwarr auch in einer gewissen 
Hilflosigkeit zurück - grade in einem Schreibmedium, wo man sich nicht mit 
"Händen und Füßen" helfen kann. Oder zumindest aus dem nonverbalen Drumrum 
gewisse Schlüsse ziehen kann.
Letztlich landen wir dann doch immer wieder bei der lingua franca, und das 
scheint zumindest in unserer Gemeinschaft, englisch zu sein.

liebe Grüße aus Wien, Erich



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Herman
  To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:04 PM
  Subject: Re: OSLIST with many languages or using the NING for that? (was: 
Re: [OSLIST] All roads take us to Santiago de Chile)


  oh, i wasn't worried about translating, artur.  i was thinking that so 
many different language streams might be a bit like have several breakout 
spaces within the oslist.  i'd only read english, but it would be fun to see 
and know that others were talking about same -- open space -- in various 
other languages.  like when i can see from one breakout several others, in 
os, but can't actually hear what's being said in those other sessions.  now 
there's a fifth principal... whatever is shared in a language i can 
understand, i might read and learn and enjoy!  <grin>
  m

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  On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Artur Silva <arturfsilva at yahoo.com> 
wrote:

    The translation from Portuguese of my previous message is:


    Michael and all


    Later, one of this days, or maybe even today, I will explain you why 
messages on many languages to the OSLIST can be confusing ;-)


    Artur


    PS: A good proof don't you think?


    PPS: If you put my Portuguese message in an automatic translater as 
tradukka (http://tradukka.com/)  it reads like that: Then one of these days, 
or maybe even longer, I explain to you why messages in several languages, 
this space is confusing . Not very accurate, I am affraid.



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    From: Artur Silva <arturfsilva at yahoo.com>

    To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU

    Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 4:22:25 PM

    Subject: Re: [OSLIST] OSLIST with many languages or using the NING for 
that? (was: Re: [OSLIST] All roads take us to Santiago de Chile)



    Michael e todos:


    Depois, um destes dias, ou talvez mesmo já, eu explico-te porque é que 
mensagens em várias línguas, neste espaço são confusas ;-) ;-) ;-)


    Artur



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    From: Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
    To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
    Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:39:19 PM
    Subject: Re: [OSLIST] OSLIST with many languages or using the NING for 
that? (was: Re: [OSLIST] All roads take us to Santiago de Chile)

    oslist, openspaceworld.ning... no matter, artur, just great that the 
conversation is going on *somewhere* in many languages.  somewhere public 
where people can see and join.  of course, the ning space is more visible 
than oslist, so it's great that it's happening there.  i didn't remember 
that we tried this on oslist very much, but alas, i would have been puzzling 
over most non-english messages.  thanks to everyone who's adding to the mix.

    m



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    On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Artur Silva <arturfsilva at yahoo.com> 
wrote:

      I don't think that would be a good idea, Michael.


      We have already tried that, but it was (is) too much confusing. One or 
two messages in other languages are ok IMHO, but real ongoing dialogues in 
many languages would bw crazy.


      Beside, one of the (many) ideas behind the World wide OST NING 
(http://openspaceworld.ning.com/) is, preciselly, to have "meeting points" 
and spaces for dialogue in many languages.


      Regards


      Artur



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      From: Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
      To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
      Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 12:08:59 AM
      Subject: Re: [OSLIST] All roads take us to Santiago de Chile

      the first berlin osonos was the year that triggered openspaceworld.org 
to spring into many languages.  wouldn't it be something if at the end of 
this year of the chilean wosonos, the oslist had gone multilingual?  go go, 
JL!  m



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      On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Christine Whitney Sanchez 
<cwhitneysanchez at gmail.com> wrote:

        I'm looking forward to that grande abrazo/abraço, Juan LuisQ




        On May 24, 2010, at 10:47 AM, JL Walker wrote:


          Ooops!
          Dear Christine, I just wanted to say:
          At least there are fifteen months for I can give you the big hug 
that from some years ago I'm wanting to give to you!

          Juan Luis


          De: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]En nombre de 
Christine Whitney Sanchez
          Enviado el: lunes, 17 de mayo de 2010 11:40
          Para: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
          Asunto: Re: [OSLIST] All roads take us to Santiago de Chile

          Viva Chile!
          Christine

          Christine Whitney Sanchez
          Collaborative Wisdom & Strategy
          1.480.759.0262
          www.christinewhitneysanchez.com
          www.promiseusa.com
          Skype: christinewhitneysanchez
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          On May 17, 2010, at 8:00 AM, JL Walker wrote:



          Dear Friends,
          Holding firmly with my left hand (that of the heart) one of our 
most treasured symbols (the talking stick), wanted to announce now, full of 
gratitude, that the next 19th WOSonOS will be held in the city of Santiago 
de Chile (or somewhere near), during the month of October 2011.
          It will be all our passion, creativity and responsibility, the 
ones that it will make of this event a milestone of warmth, hospitality and 
affection which belongs to the people of this long narrow strip of land in 
the Southern Hemisphere.
          In a few hours more I will leave Berlin and return to my home full 
of energy and enthusiasm to begin working hard for the success of this great 
task.
          For now just wanted to express all my joy and commitment, singing 
our cry again, that so often I did in Berlin with my dear friends from all 
over the world (http://vimeo.com/11757978 ):
          Ceachei i, Chi!
          Ele e, Le!
          Chi, Chi, Chi!
          Le, Le, Le!
          Viva Chile!

          A big hug to each and every one of you, and just be prepared to be 
surprised!

          Juan Luis Walker B.
          Phone: 56-2-2691033
          Mobile: 56-9-92220127
          Skype: jlwalker54
          http://www.espacioabierto.net
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