Money money: Was: OST training and "certification" - the role of OSIs? (was: Re: [OSLIST] Open Space Facilitation: Making it Work! 28-30 Sep 2010, Utrecht, The Netherlands

[Thomas Herrmann]

A couple of öre(small Swedish cents) from me too
I think it's great if people can make a living from opening space and
spreading important work like this. I always think it's so sad when people
who are dedicated to this beautiful work, cannot make a living from it and
have to do other work which they may not love as much... So I don't mind
charging A LOT but I have never ever let anyone down who has not the
resources to join a training.

A lovely colleague of mine once said that it's an exchange of energy (thanks
Donna!) which helped me a lot - and I still do make a living from what I
love! Jipiiii!
Best regards and good night 
Thomas Herrmann 

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Ämne: Re: OST training and "certification" - the role of OSIs? (was: Re:
[OSLIST] Open Space Facilitation: Making it Work! 28-30 Sep 2010, Utrecht,
The Netherlands

Gotta throw my oar into this real quick. I attended Diane Gibeault's
training last year in Ottawa.  I'd say that Diane opened up space for
us with head and heart, sharing her passion for Open Space just as
Lisa Heft does sharing her love and obsession for OS pre-work.

I don't know if I would have had as much courage to jump right in as I
have this past year, opening space in so many places without this
"training" and "sharing" and the deep OS friendships with so many.
Diane didn't teach "spirit" but by witnessing her spirit, I found the
seeds of my spirit, seeds that continue to grow in experience, reading
and searching inside myself.

So in conclusion, I think whatever path you choose is the right path.
That's what I love about Open Space.  And boy did I appreciate all
those little logistical details that she taught us like how to set up
a newsroom for 250 plus people.

My two cents worth. Suzanne

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Steven (Doc) List
<doc at anotherthought.com> wrote:
> As always, said most simply and eloquently.
> I admit that I've wondered about Open Space training for facilitators.
It's
> not that I don't think there's some value in learning from folks who've
> "been there and done that."  I struggle with the idea that you can learn
it
> in a classroom.
> How do you teach the spirit of the facilitator in a classroom or a book?
>  You don't.  You learn it through experience.
> I think much of the training/learning focuses on the logistics and
> organization, more than on the facilitation.  But since I've never
attended
> any training, I could be *very* wrong.
> ...Doc
> On May 25, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:
>
> Here we go again!  Open Space is and always has been free. Of course if
you
> want to pay somebody to train you in something that is yours by
birthright,
> be my guest. That said, it can be very useful to do something like Lisa
> provides, as also Michael P and others (myself on occasion) – when a bunch
> of good folks collectively explore the wonderful world of Open Space. I am
> not sure I would call that training – maybe co-learning would be closer.
> However when it comes to “certification” I don’t have a clue how you would
> do that. Certainly you can “certify that X participated in a program”, but
> whether they have a clue what is going on – who can say? Frankly when I
hear
> the word “certify” my immediate association is with mental aberrations. In
> American English, to say that “somebody is certifiable” means quite simply
> that they are nuts. But that might just fit, you know. J And certainly
there
> was a time that if you said you were in Open Space people assumed you were
> smoking a controlled substance or had just plain lost it. Ah, The good old
> days!
>
> Harrison
>
>
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