Working group

doug os at footprintsinthewind.com
Sat Mar 13 07:20:49 PST 2010


Allison--

For images too, take a look at drop.io. There are probably others like
it.

			:- Doug.



On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 22:19 +1100, Allison & Jim Baensch wrote:
> Hi Koos,
> 
> Sadly, we are too spread out to gather in person, though it would be  
> great to meet.
> There are even 2 working group members presently in New Zealand,  
> located far from each other, I think.
> The rest are several hours' drive from each other in several states  
> of Australia.
> 
> So Skype sounds like the way to go, with email exchanges to back  
> conversations up.
> I was hoping to find a way to use images as we talk, but didn't think  
> of our inventing a name and logo for the project - thanks.
> 
>  From quite a warm, humid evening on the Bellarine Peninsula.
> Allison.
> 
> On 12/03/2010, at 6:29 PM, koos at auryn.nl wrote:
> 
> > Hi Allison,
> >
> > Just had a conversation last night with two good friends about this.
> >
> > Our conclusion was that electronic ways of meeting work much better  
> > once you have established face to face contact first. If people  
> > don't know each other from physical presence beforehand, it is much  
> > harder to establish any kind of rapport online.
> >
> > It also helps if small subgroups (two or three) that are close  
> > enough for travelling, do meet regularly and share their results  
> > online with the rest who are farther away.
> >
> > People have tried to copy the mechanism of Open Space to an online  
> > platform, like Gabriela Ender did with Open Space Online. Even  
> > though it is a great product and well designed, my personal belief  
> > is that the Open Space structure was designed for a physical  
> > meeting. Bringing the Open Space principles to an online platform  
> > does not mean copying the structure directly to an online  
> > application. The few times that I tried, I have felt rather unhappy  
> > in an OS online conference. I think the principles of Open Space  
> > need translation before they can work well online. It is like  
> > translating a text: translation is not so much about transferring  
> > the text word by word to another language, but it is about  
> > capturing the images, the story and retelling that in the other  
> > language.
> >
> > So if you want to do something online that captures the spirit and  
> > principles of Open Space, I would go for simplicity. Use tools like  
> > Skype to have conversations between two or three locations, and use  
> > email or a forum to exchange written ideas. Maybe you can also  
> > create a name and a logo for your project, because images help to  
> > unite people behind a common goal. Try to create a rythm; meeting  
> > online every week or every two weeks, exchanging email a few times  
> > a week etc.
> >
> > Just some thoughts from a cool Utrecht,
> >
> > Koos
> >
> >
> > Citeren doug <os at footprintsinthewind.com>:
> >
> >> Allison--
> >>
> >> The Open Space Institute-US board meets in open space monthly via
> >> conference call, using one of the free conference sites.
> >>
> >> Climate Space people met internationally for several months using  
> >> Skype.
> >>
> >> And people are using Skype and conference calls to meet in open space
> >> from all over the horizon, by posting an inviting question on the  
> >> OSlist
> >> or elsewhere, offering some alternative times (you can sort  
> >> through them
> >> with sites like doodle.com), and then giving out the telephone  
> >> number.
> >>
> >> So I'd say come up with an inviting question, send it out and open  
> >> the
> >> space. Maybe 4 or 5 of you can meet that way ahead of the rest to  
> >> decide
> >> on the inviting question.
> >>
> >> 			:- Doug.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 09:31 +1100, Allison & Jim Baensch wrote:
> >>> Hi All,
> >>> I am unsure how to proceed and would appreciate your suggestions or
> >>> thoughts.
> >>>
> >>> As one of a hundred members of an Australian professional
> >>> association, I have offered to be on a new, nine person working  
> >>> group.
> >>> I was asked to set up this group, by ringing people who had  
> >>> expressed
> >>> interest in the association's future.
> >>> (Concerns had been expressed by several members about our future and
> >>> how to establish a suitable structure.)
> >>> The working group had been asked to look at structures including
> >>> incorporation and to write a constitution for the association.
> >>>
> >>> Members of the working group are scattered through much of  
> >>> Australia,
> >>> so phone or similar meetings are more likely than face to face.
> >>>
> >>> There is some interest in using Open Space.
> >>> One member of the group recently attended a 5 day Open Space
> >>> gathering and was most impressed.
> >>> I have sent the openspaceworld web site to group members.
> >>>
> >>> For some reason I am having difficulty with finding the next step.
> >>> I guess it has to do with invitation.
> >>> And with knowing how we can best 'meet' if Open Space is chosen as
> >>> our group's meeting and operating structure.
> >>> It might be to do with finding a suitable technology.
> >>>
> >>> The bodywork we all perform has many of the same principles as Open
> >>> Space, in a physical way.
> >>>
> >>> Greetings from a cool, clear Autumn day in South-East Victoria,
> >>> Australia,
> >>> from Allison.
> >>>
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