Totally present absolutely invisible

Denis Hitchens dchitch at ozemail.com.au
Thu Jun 3 16:24:04 PDT 2010


You could alwys try Fr Brian's trick and go off and marry someone in the
middle of facilitating  --  and the world rolled on!  as reported in this
list a little while ago


>I'm Interested in this wonderful skill:
>> Being totally present and absolutely invisible
>>
>
>
>It is what I aspire to every time I faciltate orvdirect a show and  
>relates very closely to stage presence as It is what I have worked  
>with puppeteers in training to do over the years. (it is especially  
>useful dramatically when you want to disappear and appear as if from  
>nowhere onstage at just the right time. A skill some of the best  
>facilitators have or so I have heard!
>
>There is another aspect about this I am interested in which for me  
>relates to what some cultures would call the dreaming aspects of  
>reality.
>
>So here's the question: Is it possible to be in this state of presence/ 
>invisibilty whilst on another space in the room? Or outside the room?  
>Or whilst asleep?
>
>So can one be totally present, absolutely invisible and take a nap?
>
>Phelim
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On 3 Jun 2010, at 21:23, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael – it would be really interesting to hear some actual situati 
>> ons where what you are describing is true. I’ve never seen it, but I 
>>  did hear of one. It happened in South Africa where a local consulta 
>> nt took Open Space as a license for absence. He literally left for m 
>> ost of the day. As it turned out (as I heard from one of the partici 
>> pants) the group really didn’t miss him, and was basically sorry to  
>> see him return. And that same participant was sure that there had to 
>>  be something more than he had seen. As a consequence he came to a “ 
>> training program” (back in the days when I used to do something like 
>>  that J) and subsequently opened space all over the place. So I gues 
>> s there was a happy ending after a rocky start. Or something.
>>
>>
>>
>> But you really put your finger on something – “active  
>> listening” – which is not so much about doing anything but rather  
>> Being intensely.  Definitely hard to describe but my best shot is th 
>> e enigmatic phrase – Being totally present and absolutely invisible. 
>>  In my experience this is a matter of intention and practice. And th 
>> e best part is that it is all definitely rewarding, not only in term 
>> s of facilitating Open Space, but equally in terms of self understan 
>> ding and personal presence. It feels good.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>
>> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>>
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu 
>> :
>>
>> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
>>
>>
>>
>> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of  
>> Michael Herman
>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:41 PM
>> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>> Subject: Re: On "Failure"
>>
>>
>>
>> i have a teacher who likes to put little reminders on pencils and  
>> pass them around.  one of my favorite pencils says:  "really easy is  
>> often quite difficult."
>>
>> i think this is true of open space.  i've seen a number of  
>> situations where the facilitator or the process itself was assumed  
>> to be a bit of magic, so nobody needed to do much else to make it  
>> happen.  this makes all kinds of large and small "failures" possible  
>> -- all owing to some lapses in the quality of attention, awareness,  
>> relationship.
>>
>> somebody once told me that carl rogers (some sort of psychologist, i  
>> think) used to listen so intently that he would often break out in a  
>> sweat -- just listening to someone.  sometimes i think open space  
>> takes this sort of quality or intensity of attention... or maybe of  
>> awareness.  that the heart is this active, even if the body is  
>> apparently doing nothing.  like when so many muscles are engaged in  
>> walking a balance beam, or timing a jump.  actively pulsing,  
>> checking, on and off, holding and releasing, inviting and reporting.
>>
>> i'd guess a fair number of "failures" have their roots in forgetting  
>> that os is this sort of active practice, even if a lot of the action  
>> is not outwardly visible or dramatic or difficult.  weirdenss seems  
>> to flow from gaps in clarity, in attention, in awareness, in  
>> relationship.  not so much, i think, from gaps in actual outer  
>> logistics.
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Michael Herman
>> Michael Herman Associates
>>
>> http://www.michaelherman.com
>> http://www.ronanparktrail.com
>> http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org
>> http://www.openspaceworld.org
>>
>> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:07 PM, VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE
<mail at visuelle-protokolle.de 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Harrison and all,
>>
>> Another example of an OS that went terribly wrong:
>>
>> It was a factory producing printing machines, both in Eastern and  
>> western Germany, and the participants were mixed from both areas. We  
>> had the o.k. from the four directors, to whom we had illustrated  
>> what to expect, and a final conference after the OS was already  
>> determined. One of the directors, the one who seemed to be the most  
>> employee-oriented, was choosen to say some words at the end of the  
>> OS. Our partner in the company was a young man from HR, very active,  
>> with good contacts to the directors. So he insisted that he should  
>> brief the director what to say at the end of OS.
>>
>> Everything went fine. The groups worked with joy and enthusiasm. We  
>> accompanied the whole OS with 3 people visualizing everything, and  
>> that was a big success, because  everybody could see what had  
>> happened everywhere. After we had shown the pictures in a final  
>> slideshow, the director stood up and destroyed everything within 5  
>> minutes. He said that he was disappointed, had expected other  
>> outcomes, and that the managers wood have a hard time to use some of  
>> the results.
>>
>> That was the end of the project for us, but much worse all the  
>> participants were angry and a big chance was lost for the company.
>>
>> Of course the mistake was to let the young HR-man brief the director.
>>
>> Reinhard
>>
>> Reinhard Kuchenmüller
>> Dr. Marianne Stifel
>> VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE
>> Kuchenmüller & Stifel
>>
>> +39-0566-88 929
>> www.visuelle-protokolle.de
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 03/06/10 18:12 schrieb "Ralph Copleman" unter <rcopleman at comcast.net 
>> >:
>>
>> Harrison and all,
>>
>> I've had a few that sort of fell flat.
>>
>> One involved a group concerned about availability of services for  
>> senior citizens across an entire US state.  Two-thirds of the room  
>> consisted of seniors themselves and, frankly, a lot of them ran out  
>> of energy about an hour after lunch.  So they sat around, a number  
>> slumping in chairs with eyes closed.
>>
>> Another involved an exploration of customer service issues for an  
>> airline.  Lots of corporate leaders from the airline present, along  
>> with their booking agents (this pre-dates internet booking sites),  
>> frequent flyer customers, and corporate travel execs who make travel  
>> policy for their companies.  A great mix, actually.  We were set to  
>> go from 8:00 a.m to 4:00.  About 2:00, a group of participants more  
>> or less seized control of the meeting somehow (I wasn't in the room  
>> when it occurred) and got everyone to agree to shorten the meeting  
>> by a full hour.  When I returned at 3:00, someone simply informed  
>> me, and asked that I begin the closing circle.  So that's what I  
>> did.  I never found out what actually happened.
>>
>> Not sure how to think about that last one, since I never found out  
>> how it all developed, but the following one is more like a true  
>> failure.
>>
>> I was asked to convene a two-day open space gathering for about 200  
>> folks from around the US.  It would be the annual meeting of an  
>> association of a certain type of public health officer (cannot  
>> recall the details).  The whole thing was pretty dead from the  
>> outset –– I mean 200 people posting a total of only 15 sessions  
>> for two whole days!?  I found out the theme was all wrong.  The plan 
>> ning committee chose an idea that turned out to have no juice for th 
>> e association's members.  I had spent hours in conference calls with 
>>  the leadership group and the planning committee, and they'd assured 
>>  me that the idea they chose was at the heart of the challenges faci 
>> ng them and their organizations.  Turns out that was dead wrong.  No 
>> body else cared.  I don't know how I might have seen through this si 
>> tuation ahead of time.
>>
>> I essentially agree with you, H.  If the conditions are appropriate,  
>> it will work.  But, if the three experiences above teach me  
>> anything, it's clear that stuff can always happens.
>>
>> Ralph Copleman
>>
>> *
>> *
>> ==========================================================
>> OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>> ------------------------------
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
>> view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
>> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
>>
>> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
>> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
>>
>> * * ==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU 
>>  ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change  
>> your options, view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html 
>>  To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
>>
>>
>> * * ==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU 
>>  ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change  
>> your options, view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html 
>>  To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
>>
>> * * ==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU 
>>  ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change  
>> your options, view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html 
>>  To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
>
>*
>*
>==========================================================
>OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>------------------------------
>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
>view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
>http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
>
>To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
>http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
><html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I'm Interested in this wonderful
skill:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="Section1"><p
class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Being totally present and absolutely
invisible</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div>I
t is what I aspire to every time I faciltate orvdirect a show and relates
very closely to stage presence as It is what I have worked with puppeteers
in training to do over the years. (it is especially useful dramatically when
you want to disappear and appear as if from nowhere onstage at just the
right time. A skill some of the best facilitators have or so I have heard!
 <div><br></div><div>There is another aspect about this I am interested
in which for me relates to what some cultures would call the dreaming
aspects of reality.</div><div><br></div><div>So here's the question: Is it
possible to be in this state of presence/invisibilty whilst on another space
in the room? Or outside the room? Or whilst
asleep? </div><div><br></div><div>So can one be totally present,
absolutely invisible and take a nap? </div><div><br></div><div>Phelim
 </div><div><div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 3 Jun 2010, at
21:23, Harrison Owen <<a
href="mailto:hhowen at verizon.net">hhowen at verizon.net</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
>
><div class="Section1">
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D">Michael – it would be really interesting to hear some
>actual situations where what you are describing is true. I’ve never seen
>it, but I did hear of one. It happened in South Africa where a local consultant
>took Open Space as a license for absence. He literally left for most of the
>day. As it turned out (as I heard from one of the participants) the group
>really didn’t miss him, and was basically sorry to see him return. And
>that same participant was sure that there had to be something more than he had
>seen. As a consequence he came to a “training program” (back in the
>days when I used to do something like that </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
>font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
>font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">) and
subsequently opened
>space all over the place. So I guess there was a happy ending after a rocky
>start. Or something. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D">But you really put your finger on something – “active
>listening” – which is not so much about doing anything but rather
>Being intensely.  Definitely hard to describe but my best shot is the
enigmatic
>phrase – Being totally present and absolutely invisible. In my experience
>this is a matter of intention and practice. And the best part is that it is all
>definitely rewarding, not only in terms of facilitating Open Space, but equally
>in terms of self understanding and personal presence. It feels
good.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D">Harrison<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D">Harrison Owen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D">7808 River Falls Dr.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D">Potomac, MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D">USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D">Phone 301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D"><a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a><o:p></o:p></
span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a>
(Personal Website)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
>color:#1F497D">To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>archives of <a href="mailto:oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu"><span
style="color:blue">oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu</span></a>:<o:p></o:p></sp
an></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D"><a
href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html"><span
style="color:blue">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</span
></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
>color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
>
><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
0in 0in">
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&quot
;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&quot
;"> OSLIST
>[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Herman<br>
><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:41 PM<br>
><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"><a
href="mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<
/a></a><br>
><b>Subject:</b> Re: On "Failure"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
></div>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
>
><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">i have a teacher who likes to
>put little reminders on pencils and pass them around.  one of my favorite
>pencils says:  "really easy is often quite difficult."  <br>
><br>
>i think this is true of open space.  i've seen a number of situations
>where the facilitator or the process itself was assumed to be a bit of magic,
>so nobody needed to do much else to make it happen.  this makes all kinds
>of large and small "failures" possible -- all owing to some lapses in
>the quality of attention, awareness, relationship.<br>
><br>
>somebody once told me that carl rogers (some sort of psychologist, i think)
>used to listen so intently that he would often break out in a sweat -- just
>listening to someone.  sometimes i think open space takes this sort of
>quality or intensity of attention... or maybe of awareness.  that the
>heart is this active, even if the body is apparently doing nothing.  like
>when so many muscles are engaged in walking a balance beam, or timing a
>jump.  actively pulsing, checking, on and off, holding and releasing,
>inviting and reporting.  <br>
><br>
>i'd guess a fair number of "failures" have their roots in forgetting
>that os is this sort of active practice, even if a lot of the action is not
>outwardly visible or dramatic or difficult.  weirdenss seems to flow from
>gaps in clarity, in attention, in awareness, in relationship.  not so
>much, i think, from gaps in actual outer logistics.  <br>
><br>
>m<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br clear="all">
><br>
>--<br>
><br>
>Michael Herman<br>
>Michael Herman Associates<br>
><br>
><a href="http://www.michaelherman.com"><a
href="http://www.michaelherman.com">http://www.michaelherman.com</a></a><br>
><a href="http://www.ronanparktrail.com"><a
href="http://www.ronanparktrail.com">http://www.ronanparktrail.com</a></a><br>
><a href="http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org"><a
href="http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org">http://www.chicagoconservatio
ncorps.org</a></a><br>
><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org"><a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org">http://www.openspaceworld.org</a></a><br>
><br>
>312-280-7838 (mobile)<br>
><br>
><o:p></o:p></p>
>
><div>
>
><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:07 PM, VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE
<<a href="mailto:mail at visuelle-protokolle.de"><a
href="mailto:mail at visuelle-protokolle.de">mail at visuelle-protokolle.de</a></a
>>
>wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
>
><div>
>
><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;
>font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy">Harrison
and all,<br>
><br>
>Another example of an OS that went terribly wrong:<br>
><br>
>It was a factory producing printing machines, both in Eastern and western
>Germany, and the participants were mixed from both areas. We had the o.k. from
>the four directors, to whom we had illustrated what to expect, and a final
>conference after the OS was already determined. One of the directors, the one
>who seemed to be the most employee-oriented, was choosen to say some words at
>the end of the OS. Our partner in the company was a young man from HR, very
active,
>with good contacts to the directors. So he insisted that he should brief the
>director what to say at the end of OS.<br>
><br>
>Everything went fine. The groups worked with joy and enthusiasm. We accompanied
>the whole OS with 3 people visualizing everything, and that was a big success,
>because  everybody could see what had happened everywhere. After we had
>shown the pictures in a final slideshow, the director stood up and destroyed
>everything within 5 minutes. He said that he was disappointed, had expected
other
>outcomes, and that the managers wood have a hard time to use some of the
>results.<br>
><br>
>That was the end of the project for us, but much worse all the participants
>were angry and a big chance was lost for the company.<br>
><br>
>Of course the mistake was to let the young HR-man brief the director. <br>
><br>
>Reinhard<br>
><br>
>Reinhard Kuchenmüller <br>
>Dr. Marianne Stifel<br>
>VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE<br>
>Kuchenmüller & Stifel<br>
><br>
>+39-0566-88 929<br>
><a href="http://www.visuelle-protokolle.de" target="_blank"><a
href="http://www.visuelle-protokolle.de">www.visuelle-protokolle.de</a></a>
><br>
><br>
></span><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif&quo
t;"><br>
><br>
><br>
>Am 03/06/10 18:12 schrieb "Ralph Copleman" unter <<a
href="mailto:rcopleman at comcast.net" target="_blank"><a
href="mailto:rcopleman at comcast.net">rcopleman at comcast.net</a></a>>:</span
><o:p></o:p></p>
>
><div>
>
><div>
>
><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
>
><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;
>font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Harrison and all,<br>
><br>
>I've had a few that sort of fell flat.<br>
><br>
>One involved a group concerned about availability of services for senior
>citizens across an entire US state.  Two-thirds of the room consisted of
>seniors themselves and, frankly, a lot of them ran out of energy about an hour
>after lunch.  So they sat around, a number slumping in chairs with eyes
>closed.<br>
><br>
>Another involved an exploration of customer service issues for an airline.
> Lots of corporate leaders from the airline present, along with their
>booking agents (this pre-dates internet booking sites), frequent flyer
>customers, and corporate travel execs who make travel policy for their
companies.
> A great mix, actually.  We were set to go from 8:00 a.m to 4:00.
> About 2:00, a group of participants more or less seized control of the
>meeting somehow (I wasn't in the room when it occurred) and got everyone to
>agree to shorten the meeting by a full hour.  When I returned at 3:00,
>someone simply informed me, and asked that I begin the closing circle.  So
>that's what I did.  I never found out what actually happened.<br>
><br>
>Not sure how to think about that last one, since I never found out how it
all developed,
>but the following one is more like a true failure.<br>
><br>
>I was asked to convene a two-day open space gathering for about 200 folks from
>around the US.  It would be the annual meeting of an association of a
>certain type of public health officer (cannot recall the details).  The
>whole thing was pretty dead from the outset –– I mean 200 people
>posting a total of only 15 sessions for two whole days!?  I found out the
>theme was all wrong.  The planning committee chose an idea that turned out
>to have no juice for the association's members.  I had spent hours in
>conference calls with the leadership group and the planning committee, and
>they'd assured me that the idea they chose was at the heart of the challenges
>facing them and their organizations.  Turns out that was dead wrong.
> Nobody else cared.  I don't know how I might have seen through this
>situation ahead of time.<br>
><br>
>I essentially agree with you, H.  If the conditions are appropriate, it
>will work.  But, if the three experiences above teach me anything, it's
>clear that stuff can always happens.<br>
><br>
>Ralph Copleman<br>
><br>
>*<br>
>*<br>
>==========================================================<br>
><a href="mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank"><a
href="mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<
/a></a><br>
>------------------------------<br>
>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,<br>
>view the archives of <a href="mailto:oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu"
target="_blank"><a
href="mailto:oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu<
/a></a>:<br>
><a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html"
target="_blank"><a
href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.b
oisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a></a><br>
><br>
>To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:<br>
><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist" target="_blank"><a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist">http://www.openspaceworld.org/os
list</a></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
>
></blockquote>
>
></div>
>
></div>
>
></div>
>
><p class="MsoNormal">* *
>========================================================== <a
href="mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank"><a
href="mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<
/a></a>
>------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
>view the archives of <a href="mailto:oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu"
target="_blank"><a
href="mailto:oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu<
/a></a>: <a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html"
target="_blank"><a
href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.b
oisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a></a>
>To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: <a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist" target="_blank"><a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist">http://www.openspaceworld.org/os
list</a></a>
><o:p></o:p></p>
>
></div>
>
><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
>* * ==========================================================
><a
href="mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<
/a> ------------------------------ To subscribe,
>unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
><a
href="mailto:oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu</a>:
><a
href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.b
oisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a> To learn about
>OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: <a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist">http://www.openspaceworld.org/os
list</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
>
></div>
>
>
>
>
>*
>*
>==========================================================
><a
href="mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
>------------------------------
>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
>view the archives of <a
href="mailto:oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu</a>:
><a
href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.b
oisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a>
>
>To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
><a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist">http://www.openspaceworld.org/os
list</a>
></div></blockquote></div></body></html>*
>*
>==========================================================
>OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>------------------------------
>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
>view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
>http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
>
>To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
>http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
>

*
*
==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
------------------------------
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html

To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist



More information about the OSList mailing list