Learnings from OS and demonstrations :) was Any experiences of OS and demonstrations?
Robyn Williams
pov at iinet.net.au
Fri Feb 26 13:34:44 PST 2010
Oh well done Eva, and phew!
Best wishes
Robyn
-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gijs van
Wezel
Sent: Friday, 26 February 2010 6:19 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Learnings from OS and demonstrations :) was Any
experiences of OS and demonstrations?
Thank you for sharing Eva.
"Whatever happened is the only thing that could have" !
The group did what they could. You did it!
Gijs van Wezel, MSc
Mega Partners Int'l (China)
+86-21-54032055
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Quoting Eva P Svensson <eva at epshumaninvest.se>:
> Hello Gail, Christine, Robyn, Lisa, Harrison and all you wonderful people
> around the globe!
> How glad I am that this community exists and what a strength it is to know
> that whatever time of the day some of you are always out there to help!
>
> How did it go?
> It went well - of course :) There was about 100 people - angry ones - most
> of them. Demonstrations outside - very calm and silent. Then they came in
> and joined the circle. The participants were angry, upset and passionate.
> One woman told me to "stand still!" when I walked the circle.. :) So after
a
> very quick - to quick I think introduction I invited them to the circle.
> When I then sat down a man came up to me and wanted to ask questions about
> the proposal that the OS was about, I invited him to the circle to put up
> topics on the agenda - and informed him that there were no room for
> questions at that time. He was so angry and accused me to stop the
> democratic process ( :) ) and he took his feet and left - but first he
> shouted at me something like "stupid coffee break - this is not how coffee
> breaks are" "and you can't even speak Swedish" :) He obviously didn't
like
> my Swedish accent :) :)
>
> One learning for me was that next time I think that I shall have a poster
> with the four fold way in the room and emphasize a bit more on that -
> because one result of the "angry tone" was that those who was pro the
> proposal didn't dare to raise their questions. But thanks to the process -
> they could write their own report and they did meet some butterflies so to
> speak. There was also a lot of butterflies discussions during the evening.
> Another question I walk around with now is if it would have been better to
> have more time in the opening to try to set an energy or if the energy was
> what it was and no matter how long time, the tone in the meeting would not
> have changed?
>
> In the closing circle - those who was still there concluded that it was
good
> that the city arranged this kind of meetings, that it had been a good
> meeting but they were not sure that they was really listened to in the
long
> run. And that they wanted this kind of meetings earlier in the process
> (while it from the city was very early in the process.. ). From the
sponsors
> side - the city - they felt that they have had good conversations and that
> they were not attacked as they use to be in this kind of issues.
>
> Thanks for your support!
> :o)
> Eva
>
> Bästa hälsningar
>
> Eva P Svensson
>
> EPS Human Invest AB
> Member of Beyond Performance Group
>
> "Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående
företag
> och organisationer"
>
> Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA
> Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg
> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50
> www.epshumaninvest.se
> Skype: eva.p.svensson
> Besök gärna min blogg; www.epshumaninvest.blogspot.com/
> "Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor till
> dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates
>
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Från: icataiw at ms69.hinet.net [mailto:icataiw at ms69.hinet.net]
> Skickat: den 25 februari 2010 03:52
> Till: eva at EPSHUMANINVEST.SE
> Ämne: Re: [OSLIST] SV: SV: SV: Any experiences of OS and demonstrations?
>
> Good morning, Eva. I was thinking a lot about
> you and holding space from Taiwan and eager to
> know the story!
>
> Gail
>
>
>
> > Robyn!
> >Yes they are invited in beforehand as well so I hope that they will take
> the
> >chance and bring forward their opinions - the thing is I guess that they
> >don't want anything in the area and there is a political decision that
> there
> >will be buildings etc.
> >I'm looking forward to tonight - I know that the organizers are a bit
> >nervous but I am confident that it will go well.
> >Hope that you are holding space together with me tonight
> >Thanks a lot!
> >:o)
> >Eva
> >
> >Bästa hälsningar
> >
> >Eva P Svensson
> >
> >EPS Human Invest AB
> >Member of Beyond Performance Group
> >
> >"Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående
företag
> >och organisationer"
> >
> >Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA
> >Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg
> >Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50
> >www.epshumaninvest.se
> >Skype: eva.p.svensson
> >Besök gärna min blogg; www.epshumaninvest.blogspot.com/
> >"Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor till
> >dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates
> >
> >-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> >Från: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] För Robyn Williams
> >Skickat: den 24 februari 2010 00:51
> >Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> >Ämne: Re: SV: SV: Any experiences of OS and demonstrations?
> >
> >Hi Eva
> >
> >As a person who is sometimes amongst (non-violent) protest/demonstration
> >groups 'outside', I would love to be invited inside to be part of open
and
> >respectful conversations, to listen and learn about the motivations and
> >goals of those 'inside', and to contribute to improving options and
> >solutions.
> >
> >In my experience, protesters are mostly concerned and informed citizens
who
> >wish to be heard and participate yet are disenfranchised by the processes
> of
> >the dominant paradigm. So keep breathing, no need to be afraid. "Swarming
> >crowds' and "hate groups" are an extreme and suggest long-term exclusion
> >from a process.
> >
> >It sounds as though the demo's organising group is known and can be
> >contacted beforehand. I recommend that an invitation is offered as soon
as
> >possible.
> >
> >
> >Best wishes
> >Robyn Williams
> >Fremantle
> >Western Australia
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Eva P
> >Svensson
> >Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2010 4:17 AM
> >To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> >Subject: [OSLIST] SV: SV: Any experiences of OS and demonstrations?
> >
> >Dear Christine!
> >What a lovely suggestion and I can already feel the radiant energy! I
just
> >had a chat with Thomas and asked him to think of me tomorrow night
between
> >5.30 pm - 8.30pm Swedish time. And if you'all out there would be with us
in
> >thoughts and hold space for us - WOW. I know that it will help me to stay
> >and breath - that's for sure!!
> >Love and hugs!
> >:o)
> >Eva
> >
> >Bästa hälsningar
> >
> >Eva P Svensson
> >
> >EPS Human Invest AB
> >Member of Beyond Performance Group
> >
> >"Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående
företag
> >och organisationer"
> >
> >Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA
> >Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg
> >Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50
> >www.epshumaninvest.se
> >Skype: eva.p.svensson
> >Besök gärna min blogg; www.epshumaninvest.blogspot.com/
> >"Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor till
> >dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates
> >
> >
> >-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> >Från: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] För Christine
Whitney
> >Sanchez
> >Skickat: den 23 februari 2010 19:49
> >Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> >Ämne: Re: SV: Any experiences of OS and demonstrations?
> >
> >Dear Eva,
> >
> >I'll chime in with an experience that wasn't open space but did
> >involve an intensely polarized situation. A citizen task force had
> >been chartered by a City Council to recommend a strategy for dealing
> >with a large number of day laborers who congregated on the streets of
> >the city. Part way through the process a hate group showed up, along
> >with the police.
> >
> >Every week, as I prepared to facilitate, one task force member always
> >came early and sat directly across the circle from me. I commented on
> >this one day, telling her that I felt that she was helping me to hold
> >the space for the highest outcome. She smiled and said that she was
> >merely representing a group back at her church that sat in silence
> >during our meetings to help us hold the space.
> >
> >If you will tell me the timeframes of your meeting, I will hold the
> >space with you. Perhaps you could ask the organizers to invite their
> >networks to hold the space with all of you. If our worldwide open
> >space community of practice would do the same, just imagine how you
> >and everyone at the event will feel as you invite and breathe.
> >
> >Love,
> >
> >Christine
> >Christine Whitney Sanchez
> >Collaborative Wisdom & Strategy
> >480.759.0262
> >www.christinewhitneysanchez.com
> >www.promiseusa.com
> >Skype: christinewhitneysanchez
> >http://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez
> >
> >On Feb 22, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Eva P Svensson wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Lisa and Harrison,
> >> Why am I not surprised with your answers :) Invite and breath :)
> >> And I will! The theme is already set and so is the invitation and
> >> yes we think that some of the people "against" who are organizing
> >> the demonstration will come as well - and I think that is good - and
> >> I do hope that they respect the format and don't be "space invaders"
> >> - that is my biggest worry right now - that some of them will try to
> >> invade the freedom to everybody to bring forward what is on their
> >> heart and mind.
> >> The meeting is about a proposal from a city about how to develop and
> >> build/change a part of a city - and it's a "hot potato" i.e a lot of
> >> feelings against and some pro of course. And the open space will be
> >> a step in the formal procedure that they have to have - to inform
> >> the citizens so that they have a chance to react on the proposal.
> >> So - how do you handle a Space Invader? Any tips there?
> >> Sooo grateful for you being out there!!!
> >>
> >> :o)
> >> Eva
> >>
> >>
> >> Bästa hälsningar
> >>
> >> Eva P Svensson
> >>
> >> EPS Human Invest AB
> >> Member of Beyond Performance Group
> >>
> >> "Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående
> >> företag och organisationer"
> >>
> >> Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA
> >> Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg
> >> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50
> >> www.epshumaninvest.se
> >> Skype: eva.p.svensson
> >> Besök gärna min blogg; www.epshumaninvest.blogspot.com/
> >> "Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor
> >> till dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates
> >>
> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> >> Från: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] För Harrison Owen
> >> Skickat: den 22 februari 2010 14:58
> >> Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> >> Ämne: Re: Any experiences of OS and demonstrations?
> >>
> >> If you really want to blow everybody's mind invite the demonstrators
> >> to join the circle. When you have conflict (which it sort of looks
> >> like you do) the solution is to keep opening the space until there
> >> is room for everybody who cares to come. Of course if the
> >> demonstrators don't care to come -- just want to stand on the
> >> outside and do whatever, that is their choice.
> >>
> >> Harrison
> >>
> >> Harrison Owen
> >> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> >> Potomac, MD 20854
> >> USA
> >> Phone 301-365-2093
> >> www.openspaceworld.com
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
> >> Eva P Svensson
> >> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:41 AM
> >> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> >> Subject: Any experiences of OS and demonstrations?
> >>
> >> Hi all!
> >> I'm on my way to hold spAce at an OST meeting where the organizers are
> >> expecting a demonstration against the proposal that is the theme for
> >> the meeting! Any of you that have any experience from that?? Would
> >> be most grateful for advice how to handle a situation like that!!
> >> Snowy greatings from Sweden
> > > :o)
> >> Eva
> >>
> >> Skickat från min iPhone
> >>
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