You are invited to a Community Conversation on Immigration

Michael M Pannwitz mmpanne at boscop.org
Mon Aug 2 08:53:57 PDT 2010


There are things I run across every day that I think are "going 
right"...and they always have aspects of the stuff we mull over in our 
OSList around "selforganisation", the way to "expand space", 
prerequisites for os-events, etc.
The stuff I hear about comes from all parts of our "systems" and I am 
sure the players involved dont have "selforganisation" or "open space 
technology" on their mind.
There are a bunch of large corporations in Germany that are interested 
in getting a more diverse work force...not because it is the right thing 
to do or because discrimination on the grounds of gender, marital 
status, ethnic background, age, etc. is prohibited by law but because it 
makes sense, is good business, supports innovative ways of dealing with 
challenges, scares the competitors, guarantees the development of stuff 
nobody ever thought of, is fun, productive....
So, L'Oreal, Procter and Gamble and several others will change to 
"anonymous applications" in Germany (this means, the applications will 
not contain names, pictures, age, gender and a bunch of other things 
usually included)...with the result of a more diverse mix of applicants 
reaching the interview level.
A simple step and it would not surprise me if it will do more for a 
peaceful Now and future than all the Global Conferences on myriads of 
issues conducted constantly all over our planet and all the wars being 
waged...
I am very curious to hear about other "simple" things...
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

PS: one simple thing I love is the next regular Stammtisch coming up, it 
will be on the first Monday of the next odd month, which is September 6 
starting at 7pm...anybody passing through Berlin: join!! Here is where 
we hang out:
> http://www.kreuzberger-weltlaterne.de/





Harrison Owen schrieb:
> Whether you call it migration or immigration (same root), Michael is right,
> it is hugely complex. The mistake many make in the US is to reduce the
> situation to a simple "us and them." This approach has the obvious advantage
> of making the solution a simple one: eliminate them. But as Christine points
> out "immigration" is only one side of the ongoing historical process of
> "migration" as differing peoples swirl and mix to form new peoples. So it
> has been for millennia, and when it stops I think the story of Homo sapiens
> will have reached its final chapter. The wonderful thing is that the total
> system will eventually find a productive accommodation (self-organization)
> but it must have the necessary time/space in which to do its job. Enter Open
> Space. 
> 
> I think one of the many things we have learned in The Middle East, which is
> often reduced to the simplistic "Palestinians vs Israelis" is just how
> limited and limiting that characterization really is -- suggesting
> simplistic solutions which can never work. In truth the Palestinians are a
> complex body of interconnecting and competing peoples -- and the Israelis
> are the same, perhaps more so. They may all be Jews but there the similarity
> ends, having come (migrated) from all over the world, each bringing with
> them their special understanding of what it means to be Jewish. And those
> understandings are often in violent conflict. I remember one night in a bar
> talking to a (Jewish) Settler, who after several beers said, "Thank God for
> the Palestinians or we (Jews) would kill each other."
> 
> Anybody who claims to understand the minute details of the situation to the
> point that they could adequately prescribe a solution is smoking a
> controlled substance, I think. To be sure many people try, and that effort
> has great utility if only to generate some short term actions to reduce the
> pain. But at a broader level over a longer time the level of complexity is
> more than sufficient to boggle the brightest mind(s). This could be cause
> for a massive state of depression, but I don't think that is necessary for
> there is an alternative. Allow the system to do for itself what we, in our
> finitude, are unable to do. And we can be quite proactive about all this.
> Open Space whenever, wherever, with whomever, about whatever, as often as we
> can! Focusing on "immigration" as a theme might be a starting point, but I
> doubt it will be lastingly effective if only because it is much too narrow.
> The issue at hand in the integration and re-integration of all aspects of
> life -- all of it. Educating children, fixing potholes in the street,
> economic development, etc, etc. 
> 
> Doubtless the situation is critical, but that has always been the case. I
> find it helpful to remember that despite all the things that have gone
> wrong, are going wrong, and will go wrong in this world -- we are still here
> to complain about how bad things are. Seems like something is going right.
> 
> Harrison  
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael M
> Pannwitz
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:53 PM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: You are invited to a Community Conversation on Immigration
> 
> Dear Christine,
> I have a hunch that critters in general do respond to their environment 
> in a "natural" way. Human critters with complex notions that are backed 
> up by space-reducing organisational constructs and myriads of "givens" 
> seem to have lost their "natural" way of responding. So, one approach 
> (come to think of it, none other comes to my mind) is to do exactly what 
> your spark initiative does: expand the space for selforganisation to 
> unfold more freely.
> The details on what swirls around "migration" vary vastly (complex) and 
> certainly involve various players (diversity)...what I see in Berlin is 
> probably not much different regarding the process: always quick fixes 
> trying to keep everything under control (attempting to shut down 
> selforganisation)...and at the same time lots of stuff that thrives 
> especially in families, neighborhoods, schools, businesses where those 
> entities act in the way complex adaptive systems do.
> Opportunities for Open Space abound...you can see it when you go to
>> http://www.openspaceworldscape.org/
> 
> zoom in on Berlin, click on the pin and then on "start search" to get a 
> list of 183 os events from all those areas mentioned that have taken 
> place in this city...the most recent ones give you an immediate flavor 
> of whats going on
> --Healthy work conditions-We work on it
> --Children of Alcoholics-Help comes in many forms
> --Yes we can! Active participation of young people in suburban and 
> marginalized areas
> --Opportunities for humanitarian projects for Nazi-victims
> 
> Keep up your stuff in Arizona!
> mmp
> 
> 
> 
> Christine Whitney Sanchez schrieb:
>> Thanks for the affirmation, Michael.
>>
>> I often think of this issue/opportunity as migration - a naturally 
>> occurring way that humans and critters respond to their environments.  
>> It's the nation state thing (and in Arizona's case the state state 
>> thing) that has contributed to the confusion around how to respond to 
>> the inherent need to move around.
>>
>> My husband's family (both the Mexican-American part as well as the 
>> Native American part) lived in what is now Arizona long before this area 
>> became a part of the United States, much less Arizona. There was more 
>> open space then, although folks were still territorial.
>>
>> What's the scenario in Germany?  And elsewhere?
>>
>> Warm wishes from monsoons in Phoenix,
>>
>> Christine
>>
>> Christine Whitney Sanchez
>> CWS - Collaborative Wisdom & Strategy
>> 2717 E. Mountain Sky Avenue
>> Phoenix, AZ 85048, USA
>> +1.480.759.0262
>> www.christinewhitneysanchez.com
>> www.innovationpartners.com
>> www.promiseusa.com
>>
>> On Aug 1, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
>>
>>> I know your event will spark all kinds of productive stuff!
>>> All the best
>>> mmp
>>> PS: got me sparked to think of what we have in Berlin (same challenges 
>>> as in Arizona, I think), passionate people abound....
>>>
>>> Christine Whitney Sanchez schrieb:
>>>>            Dear Arizona friends and friends of Arizona,             
>>>> If you are in Phoenix on August 19, 2010, we hope you will join
>>>>            us for a *Community Conversation on Immigration *from 6:00 
>>>> to 9:00pm
>>>>            at the Rio Salado Community College Conference Center.  
>>>> Take a look
>>>>            at the attached flyer for details.
>>>>            I'm part of a group of passionate Arizonans who believe 
>>>> this time is
>>>>            full of potential for our state.  Our name is *Collaborative
>>>>            Spark* - we are hosting a series of community 
>>>> conversations designed
>>>>            to create a safe and neutral listening and learning 
>>>> environment to
>>>>            help us understand one another, establish common ground and
>>>>            transform ideas into action.             Collaborative 
>>>> Spark is honored to be facilitating the August 19
>>>>            Community Conversation on Immigration in partnership 
>>>> with             <http://www.projectcivildiscourse.org>Project Civil 
>>>> Discourse
>>>>            <http://www.projectcivildiscourse.com/>, which is a special
>>>>            initiative of the Arizona Humanities Council working in
>>>>            collaboration with organizations from around the state to 
>>>> provide
>>>>            opportunities for the public to participate in trainings, 
>>>> forums,
>>>>            and special events that share, model and provide insight on
>>>>            collaborative problem-solving skills.
>>>>            *Registration* <http://www.projectcivildiscourse.org/> is 
>>>> free -
>>>>            seating is limited.  We invite you to bring your friends 
>>>> and a rich
>>>>            diversity of opinions, backgrounds and questions.  Please 
>>>> forward to
>>>>            your networks!
>>>>            Warm wishes from muggy (but cooler) Phoenix,
>>>>            Christine
>>>> Christine Whitney Sanchez
>>>> /CWS - Collaborative Wisdom & Strategy/
>>>> 2717 E. Mountain Sky Avenue
>>>> Phoenix, AZ 85048, USA
>>>> +1.480.759.0262
>>>> www.christinewhitneysanchez.com <http://www.christinewhitneysanchez.com>
>>>> www.innovationpartners.com <http://www.innovationpartners.com>
>>>> www.promiseusa.com <http://www.promiseusa.com>
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Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
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