honouring each other
Jon Harvey
jon at jonharveyassociates.co.uk
Sun Nov 22 11:47:43 PST 2009
Raffi
I am with you on everything you say except could we have:
- and last and most: the importance of play and the transformative
possibilities of (~vegetarian~, organic, free-range, new jersey) chicken
grease in the larger cosmic equation...
Thanks!
Jon
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dear friends and colleagues,
Just want to express (just) some appreciation for what i'm hearing here:
- the challenges of working out differences in an electronic text medium,
especially when this space has a shapeless, faceless quality; when we don't
necessarily always see or feel the circle (nor the sessions, nor the
breathing).
- the importance of expressing the difficult things, the "shadow,"; the
importance of divergence and disturbance to reveal what deep down we are all
seeking
- the importance of trying to express the shadow in ways that bring us
closer together as opposed to pushing us apart
- the power of team-held, highly accessible, simple, hospitable, beautiful,
multilingual online spaces that invite and articulate what os/OST is all
about
- the importance of acknowledging our shared history and the contributions
of those who have held online space for many years in service to the ost
community
- the importance of extending compassion and empathy to ourselves and others
when we or others are not successful in giving voice to the shadow in
life-serving ways.
- the importance of extending, when possible, clear and inspiring open
invitations to further serve this community
- the importance of just being a silent empathetic presence, even in an
electronic global conversation, and connecting with oneself and where one is
in the course of that silence.
- being reminded of those practices and wisdom that help us connect with
what's really going on with us and with our deepest aspirations--
compassionate communication, the fourfold way are just two examples
- and last and most: the importance of play and the transformative
possibilities of (organic, free-range, new jersey) chicken grease in the
larger cosmic equation
Thank you for this conversation!
wormly,
raffi
sandijuana, calif. (usa)
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>From Mon Nov 23 08:39:00 2009
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Raffi and All
To your list I would add something which I sense we are well served to
be reminded of periodically:
"The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.
And because we fail to notice that we fail
to notice there is little we can do to change until we notice how
failing to notice shapes our thoughts and deeds." /R.D.
Laing/
Our main 'failure to notice' as a species, in my opinion, is
'Whenever we treat each other well good things happen.'
Which I invariably say in association with 'Whatever happens...' as I
believe it is a law of nature. I have not ever come across
anyone who disagrees with this observation/conjecture.
Love
Alan
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your list I would add something which I sense we are well served to be
reminded
of periodically: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">"The
range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice. And
because
we fail to notice that we fail <br>
to notice there is little we can do to change
until we notice how failing to notice shapes our thoughts and
deeds." <i>R.D. Laing</i>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="">Our
main 'failure to notice' as a species, in my opinion, is<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="">
‘Whenever we treat each other well good things happen.’<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="">Which
I invariably say in association with ‘Whatever happens…’ as I believe
it is a law of nature. I have not ever come across <br>
anyone who disagrees with
this observation/conjecture. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="">Love</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="">Alan <o:p></o:p></p>
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Wendy--
I offer my hand with yours.
Let us work for expanding openness, together.
:- Doug.
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 02:51 -0800, Wendy Farmer-O'Neil wrote:
> In my experience, truth is relative. It depends essentially on my
> perspective. The vaster my perspective, the more many-faceted truth
> appears. Until the very notion of truth becomes more of a living
> process than a static fact.
>
> I have experienced contraction in the resonant field of OSList
> throughout this conversation. To me that signals the presence of
> aggression. Aggression can be very subtle or very blatant. Either
> way, it stimulates hurt, often in those other than its target.
>
> I am a student of Aikido, so violence, non-violence, aggression, its
> evocation, its arising, and its transformation are my daily bread. I
> still have a lifetime’s worth to learn about it. I believe that the
> purpose of conflict is harmony. What I have learned so far, is that
> aggression is a destructive, life denying vector in that equation.
> And that clean heart anger is a generative life affirming vector.
>
> I have yet to hear clean heart anger in this conversation. I have
> heard a lot of aggression in a variety of forms and guises. I have
> also heard hurt, pain, sadness, confusion, frustration, to name a few.
>
> I will share what my experience has been in service to transparency if
> it serves no better purpose.
>
> I feel contraction when I hear OS and NVC spoken of as tools because
> for me, they have become profound ways of being in the world.
>
> I feel contraction when I hear pain in Chris Corrigan’s voice when he
> wonders why this conversation needs to unfold this way between people
> he cares about.
>
> I feel contraction when I hear blame, shame and name-calling.
>
> I feel contraction when I recognize the operation of a poisoned well
> argument.
>
> I feel contraction when I hear someone caught in the steel jaws of an
> old hurt.
>
> I feel contraction when i hear the pain of someone who has had to
> fight too damn hard for every inch and breath.
>
> I feel contraction when I see more unsubscribes in a day than I
> usually see in a month.
>
> I feel care, concern, pain, and sadness when I think of all of you in
> this circle who are listening or speaking. It is you who I most want
> to speak to right now.
>
> Here is my hand.
>
> I offer it in absolute commitment. I will never put you out of my
> heart. I will hold space with and for you through it all. Even in our
> most shadowed , unloved and disowned places. I’m game to face the
> monsters of the deep. I prefer them to the shallows.
>
> I will name that the use of violence and aggression cloaked as the
> servant of truth has been the strategy of many who would prefer to
> silence, persecute, oppress and discredit those whose opinions or
> choices were in conflict with their own agendas. It has been the root
> of much human suffering. I can feel suffering present on this list
> right now. I don’t like it. I won’t support it. I am saddened that
> people I admire and respect are behaving this way. I am requesting
> that it stop. I am also requesting that the back-channel story-telling
> stop. If you do not have the integrity to air your complaints
> directly, at least have the decency not to perpetrate slander. (And I
> am speaking about everyone involved not one person in particular,
> because I’m certain it’s going on in several directions.)
>
> I guess we have finally grown up. We are apparently big enough, brave
> enough, and ready enough to face a real dragon. Can’t wait to see
> what we do with the treasure.
>
> In deepest respect and with great love for you all,
>
> Wendy
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20-Nov-09, at 1:12 AM, Michael Herman wrote:
>
> Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
> CEO Prospera Consulting
> wendy at xe.net
> 1-800-713-2351
>
> The moment of change is the only poem. -- Adrienne Rich
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