AW: [OSLIST] Does anything mmatter?

ulrike breitschuh ubreitschuh at t-online.de
Fri Nov 27 08:19:33 PST 2009


You are just sooo sweet, mmp!

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Von: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Michael M
Pannwitz
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. November 2009 17:00
An: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Betreff: Re: [OSLIST] Does anything mmatter?

Dear Ralph,
just got out my green measuring cup, placed the draft of the manual I 
mentioned earlier into it, poured my last bit of gin over it, lit it and 
through the ashes on my compost pile mumbling all the time "long live 
Ralph who matters to all of us"...
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

Ralph Copleman wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> 
> I've noticed that many Open Space events include an extremely neat 
> arrangement of pens and paper in the centre of the opening circle;
> for example with several stacks of paper and with pens in orderly
> rows, placed uniformly around the centre point
> 
> I tend to place those resources more simply - a single stack of paper
>  (fanned to make it easy to grab a sheet) and - literally - a pile of
> pens poured from a bucket
> 
> Does it matter? If so, why?
> 
> And Michael added (somewhat tongue-in-cheek, I believe)...
> 
>> oh, by the gods of open space, Jim, this is one of the most complex
>>  issues...in fact, there really should be nothing at the actual
>> center it representing the void (sometimes obliterated with
>> flowers, candeles, scarfs and other schnickschnack)...and anything
>> near the center should be as minimalistic as possible, of
>> course...and conform to the international standards of
>> visualisation (only one color of paper only one color of
>> markers...all kinds of meanings are given to colors!!)...we at the
>> berlin open space cooperative (registered under the German coop 
>> law) have been in the process of writing a detailed manual exactly
>>  touching this one point... One thing I recently learned from an
>> insider is never, never to put my temple bells on the floor (I used
>> to deposit them among the paper stacks near the center)since it
>> dishonors the bells...well, one less thing to have there
> 
> And I think...
> 
> I cannot imagine the quality of any open space event I have seen
> either as participant or facilitator since 1986 has ben affected by
> the way pens, paper (colored or not), flowers, bells, scarves, tree
> branches, stones, microphones, etc., are present or absent,
> thoughtfully arranged or carelessly strewn.  I have never seen a
> participant have trouble picking up a piece of paper -- or give up
> their willingness to post a session because the paper was too
> difficult to pick up.
> 
> I don't put bells in the center because once my set was stolen (as a
> joke, but I didn't know that until the next day).  I always use white
> paper because I believe it is the most environmental choice.
> Avoiding placing something in the very center because it dishonors
> the space?  To me that's just hollow symbolism.  ALL the spaces need
> to be honored.  The spirit in the space is so much more powerful than
> I, so I don't feel comfortable making my own personal interpretations
> of what honors it or doesn't.  I don't think the space cares.  And
> spirit will overwhelm or supercede any attempt by me, mistaken or
> otherwise, to reflect, coax, or capture it.
> 
> Each of us can do what feels right, that honors the spirit of the way
> we honor spirit.  Some participants will notice and feel supported,
> and many will not.
> 
> Nothing matters to everyone, everything matters to someone, and many
> things matter to no one.  So yes and no, Jim.  You'll never know.
> 
> Ralph Copleman
> 
> 
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