speaker sought
Raffi Aftandelian
raffi at BK.RU
Thu May 7 17:11:08 PDT 2009
friends and colleagues,
can you suggest anyone who can give a good talk illustrating how the process
arts have and can be used for change on environmental issues?
A community college in San Diego is looking for speakers for a series on
environmental issues.
I'm looking for someone in California or nearby. I don't think they have a
large budget, so probably can only offer expenses.
appreciatively,
raffi
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>From Thu May 7 20:53:15 2009
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From: douglas germann <76066.515 at compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Necessity of space
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Thanks, Brendan!
:- Doug.
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 00:04 +0800, Brendan McKeague wrote:
> beyond knowing, beyond words...this poem speaks to me of such a
> space...cheers Brendan
>
> Learning to pray without words
> by Fredrick Zydek
>
> You must turn away from the speech center
> until the desire for language slips beyond
> the weary orbits of vocabulary and definition
> into that place where wordless desires and urges
> become the parents of deeds. In that moment,
>
> a sacred place will seem to open and envelop
> you like a room, but you will know it has been
> there all the time. You will know without words
> that you are suddenly doing more than just passing
> through and that you have not so much entered
>
> anything as regained an awareness of a place more
> comfortable than your favorite pair of old shoes.
> If you doubt this, try to remember that a kind of
> chatting goes on all the time between trees, rocks,
> clouds and the great I Am. The oceans know
>
> when the moon pulls at them and the fishes too.
> There is an understanding that goes on between
> everything that is and what’s happening around them.
> Call it discussion if you like. I think of it as prayerÂ
> that stuff that looks for the slightest chance or hope
>
> for knowing it is alive. It’s what we want whether
> we make poems or just burrow beneath the sand.
> The moss growing on the north side of trees knows
> this. It doesn’t take words to lean into the wind
> and know that something living has come your way.
>
> Fredrick Zydek lives in Omaha, Neb.
> From: “The Mennonite†a periodical of the Mennonite Church USA.
>
>
> At 11:49 PM 7/05/2009, you wrote:
> > Christy--
> >
> > Wow! You have left me saying Wow!
> >
> > What an evocative notion--the space is alive. Is this true? Can we
> > make
> > it so? Can we at least meet it so?
> >
> > There are excerpts of Alexander's 4th book here:
> > http://books.google.com/books?idlIHB3_1tLMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=christopher+alexander+nature+of+order#PPA1,M1
> >
> > I have found his writing evocative as well. His books are huge, and
> > sell
> > by the pound. Now I have to mortgage my house to get these books....
> >
> > What do you suppose might be the recursive structures built up in
> > open
> > space?
> >
> > Harrison said that it takes a lifetime to explore open space, and
> > here
> > for me is a new main artery.
> >
> > Catherine, I like your image of a porous embrace. How do you see
> > time
> > fitting into this living space of recursive structures? Could you
> > say a
> > little more, please?
> >
> > Still pondering....
> >
> > :- Doug.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 23:09 -0700, Christy Lee-Engel wrote:
> > > Hi dear Doug,
> > >
> > > Well, your question reminds me of hearing friends talk about
> > architect
> > > Christopher Alexander's work, in which he emphasizes that "space
> > must
> > > be considered an almost living entity  a kind of stuff which,
> > > depending on the recursive structures that are built up in it,
> > becomes
> > > progressively more and more alive."
> > >
> > > So that space can be more alive or less alive.
> > >
> > > I haven't read Alexander's 4-Volume "The Nature of Order" yet, and
> > so
> > > I don't know what "these fifteen properties" are - but this quote
> > from
> > > a book review makes me want to read it and find out!:
> > >
> > > "Systems in space which have these fifteen properties to a strong
> > > degree will be alive, and the more these properties are present,
> > the
> > > more the systems which contain them will tend to be alive."
> > >
> > >
> > > http://natureoforder.com/overview.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > love & blessings,
> > >
> > > Christy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/5/09, douglas germann <76066.515 at compuserve.com> wrote:
> > > Hi space dancers:
> > >
> > > Recently someone pointed us to a poem about how open
> > spaces
> > > are
> > > necessary for a fire. It has had me pondering.
> > >
> > > At first I said, Sure, she is speaking of oxygen. Fires
> > need
> > > oxygen. Now
> > > I am not so sure that is what she meant, or at least what
> > is
> > > true. So I
> > > am asking you my friends, what you have observed.
> > >
> > > Just how important is the physical space for opening
> > space? I
> > > am not
> > > talking about amenities like chairs and windows and air,
> > nor
> > > about the
> > > exact number of square meters needed per person (this is
> > > cultural: some
> > > cultures want to be close enough to feel each other's
> > breath;
> > > some want
> > > more distance). In Open Space Online we have a
> > metaphorical
> > > space for
> > > our chats; in face to face, we have that physical space.
> > Is
> > > that space
> > > in the center of the circle a separate, unnoticed but
> > > essential, element
> > > in conversation?
> > >
> > > The flames need to lick upwards, the heat needs someplace
> > to
> > > go, the
> > > light needs to escape. The betweens are necessary to give
> > > birth to the
> > > what and who is emerging from our collective. What is the
> > role
> > > of space?
> > >
> > > :- Doug.
> > >
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