Whoever comes is the right people

[Michael M Pannwitz]

Well, the German version is
Die da sind, sind genau die Richtigen.
Which translates to
Those who showed up are exactly the right people.
Now that doesn't catch "Whoever comes is the right people" very well but 
seems to work.
I always post this fact of life
(each fact gets a large poster all by itself, its just too much of a 
blast to have all four on one poster and, dont forget, its not really 
honoring each fact appropriately by cramming all four on one poster and, 
in addition, those facts posted around the room are for my orientation, 
too, which is hard when I have to look at the same poster all the time)
in such a way that it is the first thing people see when they enter the 
room.
What I like about the English version (among the other things people 
have mentioned already) is that people in the plural is a bunch of 
folks, people in the singular is a group or nation. So in a way, the 
"is" opens it up beyond individuals as well as to the crowd as a whole.
Greetings from Berlin
mmp
Jorge amigo wrote:
> In Spanish, I say, "Somos los que estamos, estamos los que somos". Something
> like: “We are where we are, we are where we. It does not sound good in
> English, but I think it's a good way to recreate the spirit of the first
> principle. 
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> Jorge Amigo
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> Santiago, Chile
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> De: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] En nombre de Jon Harvey
> Enviado el: miércoles, 24 de junio de 2009 09:36 a.m.
> Para: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Asunto: Re: [OSLIST] Whoever comes is the right people
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> Bhav
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> English is a curious language! 
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> ‘Whoever’ is singular – that is why it is ‘comes’ not ‘come’ (she comes –
> they come).
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> Re ‘people’ - according to Wikipedia:
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> Note 21 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_plural#fn_21_back> : The word
> people is usually treated as the suppletive
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppletion>  plural of person (one person,
> many people). However, in legal and other formal contexts, the plural of
> person is persons; furthermore, people can also be a singular noun with its
> own plural (for example, "We are many persons, from many peoples").
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_plural
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> So ‘is’ in the sentence is grammatically correct – although it jars a little
> I know. Hope this helps – I am not really an anorak!  
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> Jon
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> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bhavesh
> Patel
> Sent: 24 June 2009 14:10
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: [OSLIST] Whoever comes is the right people
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> Hi there,
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> Seen I started opening space I have been using "Whoever comes is the right
> people" and quite often people tell me it is not grammatically correct. Why
> it is "is" ?
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> Wonderingly Bhav...
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> From: Michael M Pannwitz Subject: Re: AW: Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of
> OST? I mostly call them "Tatsachen des Lebens" which translates pretty much
> into "Facts of Life"...and usually embellish them with sayings that have
> been around for a couple of hundreds of years showing that they are commonly
> accepted Facts of Life. The addition to "Whatever happens is the only thing
> that could have" in German is "Wenn der Hund nicht geschissen haette, haette
> er den Has' gefangen." What I really like is that most of us use the same
> wording as found in the Users Guide...hearing them (or seeing them hung up
> spaced around the circle of chairs) I instantly know its open space and feel
> comfortable and excited. There has been a ghastly attack, however, by some
> nincompoop editor of "Wave Rider" on the wholy grail of the "principles".
> While on page 71 the "First Principle" is given correctly as "Whoever comes
> is the right people", beginning with page 167 the wording of this principle
> (I will not write down the wording here!!)has been horribly maimed. Maybe
> its not too late to ask BK to immediately start a reprint with the
> appropriate wording and to recall the entire first edition of Wave.
> Greetings from Berlin mmp
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