SV: [OSLIST] Some Feedback please!

[Martin Mayer]

Dear Lise,
> Very good idea having open space to develop cooperation for free
> agents/self-employed! Maybe I will "steal" your idea and make one in
> copenhagen ;-)  
>   
For myself, I do not belief in protecting ideas. I rather belief in 
progress through free availability of ideas. If you "steal" my idea and 
do a workshop in Copenhagen, don't forget to send me an invitation 
please :-).
> maybe we can share thougts and practicalities later on?
>   
I would be glad.
> When it come to trust I think most people want to trust others, but are told
> not to. My experience is that trust will begin when I myself trust people. 
> Maybe it is just a bad excuse for not coming - or for doing nothing to make
> their dream come true? If they really feel a need for development and
> cooperation they will come - and if they don't they are not "the right
> people" ;-)
>   
Yes, the good old Open Space principle.
> I am a free agent myself and I often do workshops for free agents. I tell
> them that there are plenty of ideas, many more ideas than we need - the
> difficult thing is not to get the idea, but to make it work (selling,
> creating a product, branding and so on) - and as they have probably already
> discovered their idea need some work to get into business, so it is not so
> easy to steal ;-)
>   
I also think that it is only the know how about realizing and idea which 
may be worth stealing, or rather copying. Stealing does actually not 
describe the situation correctly because the idea is not taken away from 
its originator.
> Otherwise they can tell about their idea and their needs in a less specific
> way risking that nobody get inspired enough to join them...
>   
Thank you for sharing your thoughts about this.
Best wishes
Martin


> Enjoy the day and good luck with developing your idea!
>
> Lise
>
>
> Lise Damkjær
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>  
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> Fra: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] På vegne af Martin Mayer
> Sendt: 29. juli 2009 11:06
> Til: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Emne: [OSLIST] Some Feedback please!
>
> Dear all,
>
> I want to use Open Space to help people creating new organisations. I 
> have met a lot of people who want to become self employed or to create 
> their own organisations. But many of them struggle. They have a specific 
> expertise and want to set up a business with it. But running a business 
> requires a broader range of knowledge than they have, e.g. bookkeeping, 
> sales, creating a product etc.. Many are specialists in one area. I 
> realised that often their skills complement each other. They could be 
> more successful if they cooperated.
>
> My plan is to bring them together in an Open Space to discuss their 
> ideas and to find out, how they could cooperate. But it turns out that 
> many hesitate to follow the invitation to Open Space because they fear 
> that their business idea could be "stolen" there. Or in other words, 
> they have low trust into the other participants.
>
> I wonder if it is possible to help develop more trust in an self 
> organising way. Which means to create circumstances which make trust 
> possible, just as Open Space creates circumstances which make self 
> organised conversations possible.
>
> Harrison writes in Wave Rider that a nexus of caring corresponds to the 
> strange attractor in chaos theory. It helps to let Open Space events 
> happen or correspondingly to let order appear from chaos. He also says: 
> "The jump from the very limited situation of an Open Space event into 
> the infinitely larger realm of human systems of all sizes is 
> considerable, to say the least."
>
> This arises some questions for me. Do we need other or additional 
> strange attractors to help self organised organisations to emerge? Is it 
> possible that trust is this strange attractor? And can we help it to 
> develop? If so, how?
>
> I appreciate your comments, ideas or suggestions.
>
>  From sunny Munich
> Martin
>
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