Hunger

Pat Black patoitextiles at gmail.com
Fri Oct 24 04:38:24 PDT 2008


Funda and all who have been engaged in this question,
I have been in deep thought about your question Funda and it has directed my
thoughts to other questions.  Sitting in the United States I have to wonder
if the militarization of my country, wars around the globe that directly
involve our military, those that  result from our covert military operations
and those that happen for reasons unrelated to our agenda and hunger are not
directly related to the United States governement and citizens wanting to
support an unsustainble hunger for more things.  Could the current situation
we find the world in be directly related to militarization intended to
bolster and grow an economy to accommodate unsustainable and unquenchable
appetites for more things.  These are questions and they frame my thoughts
on where to enter in.
Pat Black

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Michael Herman
<michael at michaelherman.com>wrote:

> two bits that might or might not be useful in these wonderings...
>
> first, we did a statewide "food security summit" in illinois in 2001.
> three days, full-on ost. proceedings are still posted here...
> http://www.michaelherman.com/publications/foodsecurity.pdf.  the event was
> sponsored by a large local foundation.  invitees included policy folks,
> farmers, soup kitchen managers, chefs, food pantries, homeless shelters,
> food distributors.  and associated agency folk like our friend ted ernst,
> who sort of followed me home from that event and discovered all of you here
> on the list.  the theme of the summit, subsequent events, and ongoing work
> was/is essentially "healthy food for all."
>
> later on, ralph, we did a regional followup to address the findings of a
> report done by a new jersey outfit, called redtomato.org.
>
> michael
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Ralph Copleman <rcopleman at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> Hunger is a tragedy anywhere, anytime.
>>
>> That said...
>>
>> In my experience, trying to organize a group of process consultants to
>> deal with a specific issue has not worked.  It seems to matter little how
>> deeply our hearts are stirred, we never get it going.  Conference calls and
>> meetings get put together, and assignments get accepted, but things have
>> always broken down on definitions, roles, deadlines. etc.  We do not follow
>> through.
>>
>> OS can be a HUGE and important contribution to any social change movement.
>>  Can we use it to address the challenge of hunger.  OF COURSE we can.  It's
>> a natural.  It's obvious.  We all know this.  But that's not the question.
>>  Will we get something done around this?  That's really the question.
>>
>> My answer to Michael's question?  Yes, it's a silly idea.
>>
>> Now, please, somebody.  Make me eat these words.
>>
>> Ralph Copleman
>>
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