wondering continued

[Michael M Pannwitz]

Dear Funda,
"suggesting" a "topic" to "the market of open space world" (I imagine 
you mean this list serve as that market) is different from standing up 
and saying "My name is ... and my issue is ...." in an open space 
gathering.
I wonder what would happen if I were to receive an invitation to an 
event with the title "How can we get organized to stop hunger and war in 
our world by next month?"
Would I drop everything and make sure to take part in that event?
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

funda oral wrote:
> i suggest one topic to the market of open space world : 
>  
> - how we can get organized to stop hunger and war in our world by next month?
>  
> Funda
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> --- On Wed, 10/8/08, John Rapp <jfs.rapp at gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: John Rapp <jfs.rapp at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: wondering continued
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:04 PM
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> For those of us who have spent a few years in Deep Kimchi -- and spent serious time experiencing the "bottom billion" poorest people in the world, whose kimchi is often all they have -- the biggest difference between the "free" markets, and True Open Space, is that the free markets do not readily support The Law of Two Feet.  Have you noticed how many more professional butterflies and bumblebees we see these days?  So many Wonderful Beings (incl. many of you) are seeking, persistently, to, somehow, "get off the grid" ... mostly without a great deal of success.  For this world is, increasingly, dominated by the Powers of which Jesus and other seers have so often warned us.
>  
> Space Opens only with Form.  Our "free world" and "free" markets -- when they work -- bristle with unseen protections.  Could you open an effective Marketplace in non-Green Baghdad?  In 1980s Beirut?  I wonder sometimes if we forget how harsh a form-free world may be.
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> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Martin Boroson <marty at becomingme.com> wrote:
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> Thank you all, for deepening my wondering.
>  
> I was especially struck by Harrison's comment that capitalism and the market are not synonymous.  And by those of you who spoke about the listening and connectivity that emerges in Open Space.    
>  
> Some continued wonderings, influenced by yours:
>  
> a. Perhaps the so-called 'free market' is indeed an Open Space, just much much bigger than any Open Space that any of us has facilitated.  And without a clear beginning or end, it's taking us a long time to experience the connectivity and sense of responsibility that happens relatively quickly in a more defined Open Space.
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> b.  Maybe the thing that invokes connectivity in an Open Space is the presence of a question or theme.  In an Open Space, we all gather together with a shared concern or intention, and I suspect that this certainly tilts the odds toward some kind of climax or resolution, and to experiencing some sense of connectivity through common discovery.  The 'free market', by contrast, has the freedom of Open Space but not the shared intention.
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> c.  Putting (a) and (b) together:  Maybe the free market is actually an enormous Open Space, but we just don't know what the question is yet.   Maybe, because this enormous Open Space has no clear starting point or ending point, it is taking us a long time to hear one another and realize that we are all connected, and that we really do have a common question.   Maybe we are just starting to discern the underlying question that called us to participate in this enormous Open Space.  Maybe that question is:  How can we share resources equitably on this small planet?   Or simply,  How can 'separate selves' live together in peace?  And maybe we are starting to discern that there might be, after all, a time limit.
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> Marty
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