Resulting 4p & L2F in 10 languages

Elena Marchuk marco at mail.nsk.ru
Tue May 20 20:11:02 PDT 2008


unreadable Russian, Raffi,
what code do you use?
best wishes
elena

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raffi Aftandelian" <raffi at BK.RU>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:41 AM
Subject: FW: Resulting 4p & L2F in 10 languages


Dear Arno and all,

Why thank you, 8 more languages to go (lettish anyone?) and we'll be ready
perhaps to give Open Spay(s) purrsion deux paw o a test run?

Here's an attempt at Russian:

4 п÷я─п╦п╫я├п╣п©п╟
1. whoever comes has shown up
п я┌п╬ п╠я▀ п╫п╦ п©я─п╦я┬п╬п╩, п©я─п╦я┬п╬п╩!

2. whenever it starts, is the only time that could have
п п╬пЁп╢п╟ п╠я▀ я█я┌п╬ п╫п╦ п╫п╟я┤п╟п╩я│п╬я▄, п╣п╢п╦п╫я│я┌п╡п╣п╫п╫п╬п╣ 
п╡я─п╣п╪я▐, п╨п╬пЁп╢п╟ я█я┌п╬ п╪п╬пЁп╩п╬ п©я─п╬п╦п╥п╬п╧я┌п╦.

3. whatever happens has already happened- so deal with it!
п╒п╬, я┤я┌п╬ п©я─п╬п╦я│я┘п╬п╢п╦я┌, я┐п╤п╣ я│п╩я┐я┤п╦п╩п╬я│я▄. п╒п╟п╨, я┤я┌п╬ 
п©п╟п╠я┐п╢я▄ я│ я█я┌п╦п╪!

4. when it's over, it's only really started.
п п╬пЁп╢п╟ п╥п╟п╨п╟п╫я┤п╦п╡п╟п╣я┌я│я▐, п╥п╫п╟я┤п╦я┌ п╫п╟ я│п╟п╪п╬п╪ п╢п╣п╩п╣ 
я┌п╬п╩я▄п╨п╬ п╫п╟я┤п╟п╩п╬я│я▄.

п≈п╟п╨п╬п╫ п╢п╡я┐я┘ п╩п╟п©
the law of fore paws
if you find yourself experiencing a dogma which has neither heart nor
meaning for you, first bark loudly, then pounce for the nearest exit where
other feelines are being herded

п╣я│п╩п╦ п╫п╟ я│п╣п╠п╣ п©п╣я─п╣п╤п╦п╡п╣я┌п╣ п╢п╬пЁп╪я┐, п╨п╬я┌п╬я─п╟я▐ 
п╡я▀п╥я▀п╡п╟п╣я┌ п╫п╦ я│п╣я─п╢я├п╣, п╫п╦ я│п╪я▀я│п╩, п©п╣я─п╡п╬п╣,
п╩п╟п╧я┌п╣ пЁя─п╬п╪п╨п╬, п╥п╟я┌п╣п╪ п©я─я▀пЁп╫п╦я┌п╣ п╨ п╠п╩п╦п╤п╟п╧я┬п╣п╪я┐ 
п╡я▀я┘п╬п╢я┐, пЁп╢п╣ п╨п╬я┬п╨п╦ я│п╬п╠п╦я─п╟я▌я│я┌я│я▐ п╡ я│я┌п╟п╢п╬.

apawciatively,
raffi

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>From  Tue May 20 23:03:05 2008
Message-Id: <TUE.20.MAY.2008.230305.0700.>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 23:03:05 -0700
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To: OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
From: funda oral <fundaoral2003 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Re: SV: FW: Resulting 4p & L2F in 10 languages
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<table cellspacing=3D'0' cellpadding=3D'0' border=3D'0' ><tr><td style=3D'f=
ont: inherit;'><BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 5/21/08, funda oral <I><fundaoral2=
003 at yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid">From: funda oral <fundaoral2003 at yahoo.com><BR>S=
ubject: Re: SV: FW: Resulting 4p & L2F in 10 languages<BR>To: thomas at op=
enspaceconsulting.com<BR>Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2008, 9:02 AM<BR><BR>
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<P>Here is in turkish</P>
<P> </P>
<P>4p </P>
<P> </P>
<P>-gelen herkes do=C4=9Fru ki=C5=9Fidir ( whoever comes...)</P>
<P>-baslad=C4=B1=C4=9F=C4=B1 zaman, do=C4=9Fru zamand=C4=B1r (time)</P>
<P>-bitti=C4=9Fi zaman, bitmi=C5=9Ftir ( when it ends)</P>
<P>-olmakta olan olabilecek tek =C5=9Feydir ( whatever happens)</P>
<P> </P>
<P>L2F</P>
<P> </P>
<P>- bulundu=C4=9Fun yerde katk=C4=B1 sa=C4=9Flam=C4=B1yorsan, s=C4=B1k=C4=
=B1l=C4=B1yorsan;</P>
<P> harekete ge=C3=A7, yer de=C4=9Fi=C5=9Ftir.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>regards</P>
<P>Funda</P>
<P> </P>
<P> </P>
<P> </P>
<P> </P>
<P>     </P>
<P><BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 5/20/08, Thomas Herrmann <I><thomas at openspacec=
onsulting.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Thomas Herrmann <thomas at openspaceconsulting.=
com><BR>Subject: SV: FW: Resulting 4p & L2F in 10 languages<BR>To: O=
SLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR>Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 11:29 PM<BR><=
BR><PRE>Hi - and thanks everyone
I've made the changes proposed to the German and French versions, and added
the English one. Still have some folks looking at different versions of Lat=
vian
version.=20

The Portuguese as well as other versions are on Lisas site.=20
So I'll wait a little more and post the list that I collected again.

My sponsor called me today - and I let him know I've got all languages - he
was mighty impressed...! You are such resources
Best regards
Thomas

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Fr=C3=A5n: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] F=C3=B6r Michael =
M Pannwitz
Skickat: den 20 maj 2008 17:34
Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
=C3=84mne: Re: FW: Resulting 4p & L2F in 10 languages

I love this! Thomas, if you keep collecting all of this and adjust stuff=20
as suggested and then issue the "perfect" set in 10 languages (maybe
you=20
should add English as a sort of "reference" to the original) you will

enter the annals of Open Space or even the Open Space Paradise.
And will certainly be the only thing that could have/konnte/pouvait...
cheers
mmp

Diane Gibeault wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
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> Here is the text for the law in French missing in your version and 2
modifications to the French principles to reflect the original English mean=
ing
and to avoid gender exclusiveness. I am catching up on the recent list
messages, hope I am not too late with this contribution.=20
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> The French has been modified, in our part of the world at least, on th=
e
following:=20
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> -          the 3rd principle now reflects the English =E2=80=9Ccould h=
ave=E2=80=9D
with the word =E2=80=9Cpouvait=E2=80=9D. The word =E2=80=9Cdevait=E2=80=9D =
you have in English means
What =E2=80=9Cshould=E2=80=9D happen instead of the actual What =E2=80=9Cco=
uld=E2=80=9D happen.  What
should happen has a whole different meaning than could and is incompatible =
with
the principle itself and OST as a whole. We used it too at the outset until=
 a
participant pointed to the error. Subtleties are not always obvious.
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> So it reads: Ce qui arrive est ce qui pouvait arriver
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> (WHATEVER HAPPENS IS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD HAVE)=20
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> -          Also to be more inclusive, the following wording of the 1st
principle circumvents the limitations of the gender of the French language;
also =E2=80=9Cse pr=C3=A9sentent=E2=80=9D is a closer translation to =E2=80=
=9Cthat show up=E2=80=9D instead
of =E2=80=9Cparticipate=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 a nuance: one may show up but no=
t actively participate
in the discussion.
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> =E2=80=9CLes personnes qui se pr=C3=A9sentent sont les bonnes=E2=80=9D=
.
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> Here is the set of all the French principles with the above changes an=
d
the law of the 2 feet or law of mobility:=20
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> Les personnes qui se pr=C3=A9sentent sont les bonnes
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> Ce qui arrive est la seule chose qui pouvait arriver
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> Quand =C3=A7a commence, c=E2=80=99est le bon moment
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> Quand c=E2=80=99est fini, c=E2=80=99est fini
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> =20
>=20
> La loi des deux pieds=E2=80=A6 =C2=AB Si vous n=E2=80=99apprenez plus =
et ne contribuez
plus,
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>  passez =C3=A0 autre chose! =C2=BB
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> Diane
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> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thom=
as
Herrmann
> Sent: 20 mai 2008 06:17
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Resulting 4p & L2F in 10 languages
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> Dear friends in Open Space =E2=80=93 it worked!
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> Thanks
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> Thomas
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> The four principles and the law in 10 languages:
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> FRENCH
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> Quatre principes
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> 1.   Tous ceux qui participent sont les bonnes personnes
> WHOEVER COMES IS THE RIGHT PEOPLE=20
>=20
> 2.   Quand cela commence c=E2=80=99est le bon moment
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> WHENEVER IT STARTS IS THE RIGHT TIME
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> 3.   Ce qui arrive est ce qui devait arriver
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> WHATEVER HAPPENS IS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD HAVE=20
>=20
> 4.   Quand c=E2=80=99est fini c=E2=80=99est fini
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> WHEN IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER=20
>=20
> The Law of two feet
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> Loi des deux pieds ou loi des deux jambes
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> =20
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> =20
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> ESTONIAN
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> =20
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> 1.      Kohal on =C3=B5iged inimesed=20
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> WHOEVER COMES IS THE RIGHT PERSON
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> 2.      Kui see algab,on =C3=B5ige aeg=20
>=20
> WHENEVER IT STARTS IS THE RIGHT TIME
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> 3.      Juhtuvad =C3=B5iged asjad=20
>=20
> WHATEVER HAPPENS IS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD HAVE
>=20
> 4.      Kui see on l=C3=A4bi,siis see on l=C3=A4bi=20
>=20
> WHEN IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER
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> =20
>=20
> The law of two feet
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> =20
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> KAHE JALA SEADUS - kui sa ei =C3=B5pi ega =C3=BCtle, astu edasi!
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> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> SPANISH
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> =20
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> Los cuatro principios
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> 1.      Quien viene es quien debe venir
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> 2.      Comienza cuando es el tiempo
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> 3.      Lo que sucede es lo que debe suceder
>=20
> 4.      Termina cuando termina
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> =20
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> La ley de los dos pies o Ley de la Movilidad
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> GERMAN
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> Vier Grunds=C3=A4tze
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> 1.      Die da sind, sind genau die Richtigen.
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> 2.      Es f=C3=A4ngt an, wenn die Zeit reif ist.
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> 3.      Was auch immer geschieht: Es ist das Einzige, was geschehen ka=
nn.
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> 4.      Vorbei ist vorbei - Nicht vorbei ist nicht vorbei.
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> =20
>=20
> The law of two feet - Das Gesetz der zwei F=C3=BC=C3=9Fe (Fuesse)
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> =20
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> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> ITALIAN
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> =20
>=20
> 1.      Chiunque venga =C3=A8 la persona giusta
>=20
> WHOEVER COMES IS THE RIGHT PERSON
>=20
> 2.      In qualsiasi momento cominci =C3=A8 il momento giusto
>=20
> WHENEVER IT STARTS IS THE RIGHT TIME
>=20
> 3.      Qualsiasi cosa accada =C3=A8 l'unica che poteva accadere
>=20
> WHATEVER HAPPENS IS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD HAVE
>=20
> 4.      Quando =C3=A8 finita =C3=A8 finita
>=20
> WHEN IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER
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> =20
>=20
> The law of two feet
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> La legge dei due piede
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> =20
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> =20
>=20
> SERBIAN
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> =20
>=20
> =C3=A8etiri prinicipa (prinicipi)
>=20
> 1. Whatever happens is the only thing that could have.
>     =C5=A0tagod da se desi, jedino je =C5=A1to se moglo desiti.
>=20
> 2. When it's over, it's over.
>     Gotovo je kada je gotovo.
>=20
> 3. Whenever it starts is the right time.
>     Kadgod da po=C4=8Dne, to je u pravo vreme.
>=20
> 4. Whoever comes is the right people.
>     Ko god da do=C4=91e, prava je osoba.
>=20
> The law of two feet - Zakon dva stopala
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> =20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> RUSSIAN
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> =20
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> 4 =D0=9F=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=86=D0=B8=D0=BF=D0=B0
>=20
> 4 Principles
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> =20
>=20
> 1.     =D0=9A=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B1=D1=8B =D0=BD=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=
=D1=88=D0=B5=D0=BB =E2=80=93 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=
=B8=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B5
=D0=BB=D1=8E=D0=B4=D0=B8.
>=20
> Whoever comes=E2=80=A6
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> =20
>=20
> 2.     =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B0 =D0=B1=D1=8B =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =
=D0=BD=D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=8C =E2=80=93 =D1=
=8D=D1=82=D0=BE
=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B5 =D0=B2=D1=80=
=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=8F
>=20
> Whenever it starts=E2=80=A6
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> =20
>=20
> 3.     =D0=A7=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B1=D1=8B =D0=BD=D0=B8 =D1=81=D0=BB=D1=83=
=D1=87=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=8C  - =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE
=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B5, =
=D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1=82 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B8=
=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B9=D1=82=D0=B8=20
>=20
> Whatever happens,,,
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> 4.      =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B0 =D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BA=
=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F =E2=80=93 =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=
=B4=D0=B0 =D0=B8
=D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F=20
>=20
> When it=E2=80=99s over=E2=80=A6
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> =D0=97=D0=90=D0=9A=D0=9E=D0=9D =D0=94=D0=92=D0=A3=D0=A5 =D0=9D=D0=9E=
=D0=93
>=20
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> Law of two feet
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> =D0=95=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B2=D1=8B =D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=80=
=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B5, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B7=
=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=8C =D0=B2
=D1=81=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=83=D0=B0=D1=86=D0=B8=D1=8F=D1=85, =D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B5 =
=D0=B2=D1=8B =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B5 =D1=87=D0=B5=
=D0=BC=D1=83-=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=BE
=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 =
=D1=81=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B9-=
=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=BE =D0=B2=D0=BA=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B4, =D0=B2=D1=8B
=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BD=D1=8B =
=D0=B7=D0=B0 =D1=82=D0=BE, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=8B =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=
=80=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=82=D0=B8 =D0=B2 =D0=B4=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B5
=D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BE, =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B5=
=D1=80, =D0=B2 =D0=B4=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B3=D1=83=D1=8E =D0=B3=D1=80=D1=83=D0=
=BF=D0=BF=D1=83.
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> If you find yourself in a situation where you cannot learn nor make a
contribution=E2=80=A6
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> LITHUANIAN
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> Four Principles =E2=80=93 keturi d=C4=97sniai
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> WHOEVER COMES IS THE RIGHT PEOPLE =E2=80=93 KAS ATEINA YRA TINKAMI =C5=
=BDMON=C4=96S=20
>=20
> WHENEVER IT STARTS IS THE RIGHT TIME =E2=80=93 KADA PRASIDEDA, TADA IR=
 TURI
PRASID=C4=96TI
>=20
> WHATEVER HAPPENS IS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD HAVE =E2=80=93 KAS BEATS=
ITIKT=C5=B2,
TIK TAI IR GALI ATSITIKTI=20
>=20
> WHEN IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER =E2=80=93 KADA BAIGIASI, TADA BAIGIASI
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> =20
>=20
> The law of two feet =E2=80=93 DVIEJ=C5=B2 P=C4=96D=C5=B2 D=C4=96SNIS
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> LATVIAN
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> Principles:
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> =20
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> 1. Whatever happens is the only thing that could have.
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> 1. Kasvien nenotiks ir vien=C4=ABgais kas notikt var=C4=93ja.
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> =20
>=20
> 2. When it's over, it's over.
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> 2. Kad tas ir cauri, tas ir cauri.
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> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> 3. Whenever it starts is the right time.
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> 3. Prieks s=C4=81k=C5=A1anas veinm=C4=93r ir pareiz laiks.
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> =20
>=20
> 4. Whoever comes is the right people.
>=20
> 4. Katrs atn=C4=81c=C4=93js (kas piedal=C4=81s) ir iel=C5=ABgts.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> The law of two feet
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> Divu k=C4=81ju likums:
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> =20
>=20
> SWEDISH
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> FYRA PRINCIPER
> Vilka som =C3=A4n kommer =C3=A4r r=C3=A4tt personer
> Vad som =C3=A4n h=C3=A4nder =C3=A4r det enda som kunde h=C3=A4nda
> N=C3=A4r det =C3=A4n b=C3=B6rjar =C3=A4r det r=C3=A4tt tid
> N=C3=A4r det =C3=A4r slut s=C3=A5 =C3=A4r det slut
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> En lag: Anv=C3=A4nd f=C3=B6tterna
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> =20
>=20
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