Self-organizing universe and tatsers

[Michael M Pannwitz]

Dear Ralph,
exactly my experience!
When clients approach me for a day or less I tell them that I will do 
that only for a very high fee... and less than 4 hours, forget it.
When I have a chance to explain stuff a little more in detail (via email 
or in a phone call)clients will sometimes change their entire design.
I also point them to a paper I placed on the boscop site on what to 
expect from variously long os events. Its in German but I know this is 
no problem for you
> http://www.boscop.org/page/show/88


Or, this happened just recently, a client told me that they are 
convinced and next time will do a 3-day os (my favorite) which they then 
actually contracted for (originally they wanted 2,5 hours in one evening).

One of the more frustrating phenomena around os in Germany is the 
inflationary use of it as an approach to fill some "open space" in a 2 
or 3 or 4 day conference (1 hour or 1,5 hours or 2 hours)...today I 
received a request from folks training mediators to use os in their 
annual conference (1,5 days), one of their motives was to have a 
"classic" open space facilitated by a seasoned professional (yes, thats 
what she called me!!) to offset all the junk they have been offered 
under the label of "open space". Of course, I did mention that without a 
burning business issue an os can be quite "flat"...it seems there is 
some urgendt stuff, though.

On another line: The mail you responded to was not from me but from 
another Pannwitz you might not have met yet. Seems that the three 
brothers and my sons (Michael jr., Yaari and Daniel) are involved in 
open space in more than just a temporary way. So, expect to hear more 
from them ....

On another topic, the notion that the universe was self-organizing even 
before it came into being really got me thinking. I just hope it doesnt 
drive me batty ending up in one of them asylums Barry was referring to.

Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Ralph Copleman wrote:
> I recall doing a taster for a group of about 35 once.  I think I 
> arranged three sessions of 20 minutes each.  I will never do that 
> again.  It was stupid.  Another time I had a group of 20 top executives 
> at an airline wanting to understand open space – would I please take 20 
> minutes or so to give them a sample.  I asked them to arrange themselves 
> into a circle, and I did the opening – after warning them they might 
> feel kind of frustrated at not having the chance to act on what they'd 
> be feeling.  That worked like a charm.  Six weeks later I was opening 
> space for 120 of their employees and preferred corporate customers.
> 
> In general I agree with Michael Pannwitz, three sessions are almost 
> always better than two.  My personal rule, however, is that I will never 
> facilitate anopen space gathering that is not at least four hours long 
> from start to close.  When I have told this to clients who want to "try 
> it" for 2 or 3 hours, they often wind up hiring me to do a full day.
> 
> On another topic, if I believe in the reality of self-organization, how 
> can I NOT believe the universe has been self-organizing right from the 
> very start - and before?
> 
> Ralph Copleman
> 
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