need OS event on east coast (usa)

Wed Aug 6 13:40:45 PDT 2008

yes yes, michaelmp.  absolutely not the facilitator's decision about whether
or not to have visitors.

only the business of hte facilitator in as much as sponsors have often asked
my advice on such things and i do think it can be important when such
observers are present that their presence be noted and maybe explained, by
somebody, in the beginning of the event.

my main point was that it's not right, or even very possible, for them to
just sort of show up and work undercover, apparently as just another
participant.

i know we love to chat here, but don't forget that the main purpose of this
thread is to generate some possibilities for our reporter friend... so do
find him if you've got something near washington dc that might work for him
and you and your sponsor.  mailto:oliver.burkeman at guardian.co.uk

many thanks,

mh

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpanne at boscop.org>wrote:

> I think it is an issue that the sponsor of the event and/or the planning
> group needs to deal with, its none of the business of the facilitator.
> In those instances in my practice where people wanted to be part as
> visitors, observers, newsreporter, photographers, spies, participants from
> apparently outside the system...what have you, I have always referred them
> to the sponsor. Less work for me and another opportunity for the sponsor to
> manage the givens.
> A somewhat related point:
> Point them to the World Opens Space Landscape
>
>> http://www.openspaceworldscape.org/
>>
>
> Presently, there are 5 future events listed there (in a total of 449), all
> in Germany. Imagine more of us listing our events there and being able to
> point people interested to it. Its then not only the archive of our work but
> also a place to have people look for getting involved or getting acquainted
> (the presently displayed future open space events are in European Youth
> Work, a school, community organisation focusing on families, a protestant
> parish and Learning Organisations...a wealth of opportunities that could be
> vastly expanded by more colleagues from around the globe joining).
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
>
>
>
> Michael Herman wrote:
>
>> hello james,
>>
>> this is true, about the mechanisms that are there to allow him to attend
>> and
>> *look* like a particpant, to blend in, from a high-level, macro
>> perspective.  and... but... and... the main requirement for participants
>> is
>> not that they can float and such, but that they *care*.
>>
>> when he butterflies around, he's likely to find others floating, and
>> likely
>> to have some conversation with them -- at which point he's either got to
>> 'fess up that he doesn't share a passion for the purpose of the gathering,
>> or he's got to fake that too.  that micro level faking is a lot harder
>> that
>> just looking like a butterfly floating around.
>>
>> i'd not recommend ever having observers like a reporter around without
>> telling everyone that it's happening.  this one's maybe a little less
>> intrusive cuz he's only interested in seeing the process, not reporting on
>> the content, but it's still a tricky thing.
>>
>> that said, there are plenty of public/community issues where having a
>> professional storyteller present would not be weird at all and might even
>> help the cause, if part of the cause includes sharing the story widely, or
>> having a professional piece to share around.  so maybe we can find him
>> something like this?
>>
>> thanks, m
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:51 AM, James Sheldon <queerpedagogue at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  I don't see why he couldn't be invited to *participate* in an open
>>> space...  I mean, with the law of two feet, the butterfly, and the
>>> bumblebee a participant can float around like a reporter might like
>>> to...
>>>
>>> @james
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Michael Herman
>>> <michael at michaelherman.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> another request for help... this time looking for an os event on the
>>>> american east coast for a DC-based reporter who wants to do a story.
>>>>
>>>  here's
>>>
>>>> what he wrote to me...
>>>>
>>>> I'm a staff writer for the (London) Guardian newspaper, based here in
>>>> our
>>>> Washington DC office. Among other things, I write a weekly column on
>>>> psychology, from social psychology research and workplace/organisational
>>>> psychology to highly questionable New Age things, via self-help books
>>>> and
>>>> personal development courses.
>>>>
>>>> For a long time now I've wanted to write about OST, so I'm scrabbling
>>>>
>>> around
>>>
>>>> for a way in which I might be able to see it in action, preferably not a
>>>> million miles from DC.
>>>>
>>>> i know, i know, there are no observers in open space... and... can we
>>>>
>>> find
>>>
>>>> him somethign to watch?  you can contact him directly at
>>>> mailto:oliver.burkeman at guardian.co.uk
>>>>
>>>> thanks, michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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