Craig
Gerard Muller
gm at openspace.dk
Mon Oct 22 12:22:23 PDT 2007
Hello Craig,
I have a few things to add.
2. Actually most spaces in my experience are rectangular rather than
square, meaning either circles with additional chairs on the short
side,
or a double/triple etc ellips.
If it's circles for 110 participants, in my experience that's roughly
50 in the inner, 70 in the outer circle- in the inner more chairs left
out to allow
participants in the outer circle to get to the centre.
If it's ellipses, the difference between outer and inner circle is
smaller as the longer side of the ellips is identical on inner and
outer side.
3. I, too tend to work with 1 hour 15 time slots. However it also
depends on the kind of participants; some groups are faster than
others.
Fast (I am still prepared to be surprised): policemen, doctors/nurses
(surgeons rather than internal medicine/neurology); but also farmers,
web designers and the like.
Slow: researchers, government agencies, NGO's (surprisingly even those
involved in disaster management after the Tsunami in Indonesia
were slow ........
4. I find the issue what question to ask in the closing circle very
interesting. I used to ask to say the most important people had to
say.
Then I had a couple of one day OS's with quite a specific issue, such
as "What are the three strategic options the Board of our hospital
should
investigate further" and I'd ask a more specific question. Seems to
make no difference.
As for time, in my experience when the purpose is clear and the time
available is clear, groups will self-organise to do what they have to
do within
that frame. The more people, the less time and the more consultants
and the like, the more I tend to be precise about purpose, time frame
and
respect for this.
Have a great meeting !!
Gerard Muller
Open Space Institute Denmark
Phone: (+45) 21269621 Skype: openspace1
Mail: gm at openspace.dk
On Oct 22, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:
> Craig -- Happy to be helpful. As for the Practice of Peace – the
> edition published by the Human Systems Dynamics Institute is not much
> different substantively – but it is certainly a lot prettier and much
> better edited.
>
> Harrison
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> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Craig Gilliam
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:39 AM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: Craig
>
>
>
>
> Harrison:
>
> Thanks for the response. Your thought that grow out of experience
> are helpful.
>
> Oh yeah, is the second edition of yourThe Practice of Peace different
> from the first printing. I read the first, and it was excellent. I
> need to reread it. But instead, I might order the second, and use it
> as my reread. Can't seem to get enough of this stuff!!!
>
> Thanks,
> Craig
>
>
> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 07:30:22 -0400
> From: hhowen at verizon.net
> Subject: Re: Craig
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Hi Craig!
>
>
> 1. With approx. 110 people, is your experience best with one large
> circle or two concentric circles (keeps it smaller)?
>
> I always go for more space – so if you can make it with one circle,
> that would be my choice. However at that point people are a long way
> from each other so a mike is essential. A big circle with lots of
> space is truly awesome, but you do have to run about a bit in order to
> cover it. Are you in good shape?
>
> 2. A technical question--If we have to go with two concentric circles
> because of space, where I have a beginning number, does any one have
> experience as to an estimate as to the number of chairs for the inner
> and outer circles? I have done it, but it has been a while. Trying
> to remember at what number to begin the experiment as we set up the
> circles.
>
> Don’t have a clue. I would start with the outer circle and fill in as
> necessary.
>
> 3. In the past, I usually go with 1 hour and 15 minute sessions.
> This gathering, even though the group is more accustomed to 1 hour
> meetings, I am thinking about using the 1 and 1/12 time frame for the
> sessions—knowing that when it is over, it is over. Any thoughts on
> your experiences about time—when it is a longer gathering like this
> one it seems the 1 and ½ sessions could allow more freedom or space.
>
> For whatever it is worth I always go with 1½ hour sessions -- unless
> there is a REALY good reason for smaller time slots. It is a lot more
> relaxed, particularly if the breakout spaces are spread out all over
> the place.
>
> 4. With a group of this size, I plan to have Evening News at the end
> of each day and a closing news on the last morning. Often, I ask,
> What have you learned? Do you suggest staying with that question at
> the end of each day or do you suggest something different (In this
> gathering, I will have two evening news and one closing news.
> Generally, I find the closing news the deepest and longest.)? My
> other concern at times is the length of such news with this large
> number each evening and on the last morning, but I guess, if they get
> bored, they can engage the law of two feet. Any thoughts?
>
> I am a little curious about a “closing news?” First off I always try
> and keep my “News” times brief, especially in the morning as folks
> want to go to work. Do you mean a “closing session” – which comes at
> the end of everything? That for me is the time for reflection and
> sharing. The other news spots are more practical. Like lost watches
> and wallets, places to go to dinner, etc. Of course if something
> deeper wants to come out, it usually does, and you got to give it
> space/time. But don’t let it get away from you time wise else people
> get tired of it all. If things tend to go on too long, and I can see
> that folks are edgy and want to head for the door, I remind them that
> the law of two feet is always in operation – and those who need to –
> can put one ahead of the other.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Harrison
>
>
> Harrison Owen
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Craig Gilliam
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:22 PM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Craig
>
>
>
> I am getting ready to lead another Open Space. Please excuse the
> smallness of these questions, but I continue to evaluate how I do Open
> Space, what can I learn, and how can I do it better?
>
> This gathering will start mid-day, have one full day, then another
> half-day. My questions are:
>
> 1. With approx. 110 people, is your experience best with one large
> circle or two concentric circles (keeps it smaller)?
>
> 2. A technical question--If we have to go with two concentric circles
> because of space, where I have a beginning number, does any one have
> experience as to an estimate as to the number of chairs for the inner
> and outer circles? I have done it, but it has been a while. Trying
> to remember at what number to begin the experiment as we set up the
> circles.
>
> 3. In the past, I usually go with 1 hour and 15 minute sessions.
> This gathering, even though the group is more accustomed to 1 hour
> meetings, I am thinking about using the 1 and 1/12 time frame for the
> sessions—knowing that when it is over, it is over. Any thoughts on
> your experiences about time—when it is a longer gathering like this
> one it seems the 1 and ½ sessions could allow more freedom or space.
>
> 4. With a group of this size, I plan to have Evening News at the end
> of each day and a closing news on the last morning. Often, I ask,
> What have you learned? Do you suggest staying with that question at
> the end of each day or do you suggest something different (In this
> gathering, I will have two evening news and one closing news.
> Generally, I find the closing news the deepest and longest.)? My
> other concern at times is the length of such news with this large
> number each evening and on the last morning, but I guess, if they get
> bored, they can engage the law of two feet. Any thoughts?
>
> Always interested in learning from your experiences, and how I might
> do what I do better.
>
> Thanks,
> Craig
>
>
>
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