Law of Two Feet

Michael M Pannwitz mmpanne at boscop.de
Thu Feb 15 12:52:21 PST 2007


I would suspect that there is nothing more empowering that that person 
has ever run across before.
And then, what is a "difficult" person? May just be the salt in the stew.
And, what about the magic of selforganisation and my role as 
facilitator/peacemaker?
greetings from Berlin
mmp

Bui K. Petersen wrote:
> Thanks for the reassurance, Jack.
> 
> However, I am not as concerned about the to the topic and the 
> conversation as I am with the affect on the "difficult" individual. 
> While it may be empowering for people to simply leave an unfruitful 
> conversation, I wonder how empowering it is for the individual left behind?
> 
> Búi
> 
> Jack Ricchiuto wrote:
>> Bui,
>>
>> This does happen and can hurt the development of content around an 
>> otherwise attractive topic. If the self-organizing soil of the group 
>> is fertile enough, people will continue the conversation in different 
>> places and in different ways, the way water will flow around rocks to 
>> whatever openings available. When people with passion are given 
>> freedom, good things happen no matter what.
>>
>> Translation: not to worry.
>>
>> Be well,
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> On 2/15/07, *Bui K. Petersen* <bui at buildconsensus.ca 
>> <mailto:bui at buildconsensus.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>     As someone who is still just learning and trying to find out how
>>     and when OST can be used, I am curious about people's experience
>>     with the effect the Law of Two Feet can have on irritating
>>     dominating personalities. Say for example that someone is
>>     dominating a group and practically annoying everyone else with the
>>     result of them using their two feet and leaving. How does this
>>     affect the person left behind? I have some concerns about what
>>     could happen to this person but before I mention them, I am
>>     interested to hear what others have experienced.
>>
>>     Curious!
>>
>>     Búi
>>
>>
>>     -- 
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>From  Thu Feb 15 15:59:12 2007
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It is all a joke =96 the =93science=94 of Open Space, and =
=93technology.=94 It is
true, so far as I know, that no serious scientist has ever bothered with
Open Space =96 which always seemed odd to me if only because it is a =
wonderful
ongoing natural experiment concerned with (amongst other things) the =
power
and effect of self-organization in human systems. How the scientific
community could overlook this goldmine of experimentation is a mystery =
to me
(which may not be all that mysterious). But it really is a wonderful =
natural
experiment. We have very clear cut =93experimental conditions=94 =96 a =
defined
procedure, and a growing body of experimental results. Of course, as a
natural experiment, it didn=92t start out that way =96 meaning that =
many, or
most, of the normal =93experimental controls=94 are absent, which may =
produce a
degree of question when it comes to the validity of results. However, as
with all natural experiments, when the number of iterations becomes =
large =96
those large numbers usually serve as adequate controls. Since we are =
well
over 60,000 iterations in 124 countries, I think we have the numbers. So
when I said that there was not a =93shred of scientific evidence.=94 My =
tongue
was in my cheek. Cheeky of me I know, but maybe Official Science will =
catch
up?

=20

As for =93technology=94 =96 that too was kind of a joke, for the reason =
you noted.
OS is Simple! In self defense I would point out that OS actually meets =
the
definition of a technology. And, for whatever it is worth, really good,
elegant technology is simple, or at least as simple as it can be. Bad
technology is complex for the sake of complexity, or even worse, it is
complex because the technologist was too lazy or possibly incompetent to
strip it down to essentials.=20

=20

harrison

=20

=20

=20

Harrison Owen

7808 River Falls Drive

Potomac, Maryland   20854

Phone 301-365-2093

Skype hhowen

Open Space Training  <http://www.openspaceworld.com/> =
www.openspaceworld.com


Open Space Institute  <http://www.openspaceworld.org/>
www.openspaceworld.org

Personal website  <http://www.ho-image.com/> www.ho-image.com=20

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=20

-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bui K.
Petersen
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:32 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Open Space -- A Quiet Revolution

=20

Harrison, I think I was referring to the following quote:



We all know on the strength of our experience that OST is fast, fun,
effective, cheap, and easy to do. Of course we do not have a shred of
scientific data to prove that and certainly not rigorously conducted
research.  :-)  But I am not sure any of that would change much - we =
would
doubtless be stuck with our experience. However, the question remains - =
if
OST is so good, why doesn't EVERYBODY use it? It seems like a total
no-brainer!

I guess you were referring to the fact that we cannot "prove" it
scientifically. As with all social (or is it human) sciences, no =
experiment
can be identically reproduced. I don't think OST is at any more =
disadvantage
than anything else to be researched. For most of us it doesn't matter =
that
much why it works. Where just excited about how well it works. However, =
it
is always interesting to look at something from different theoretical
perspectives as you often gain new insight from that.

And as with selling anything (cars, fridges, OST, etc.), buyers don't =
care
about the science behind it. They just want it to work.

P.S. I have always wondered why you decided to call it Open Space
"TECHNOLOGY". I almost makes it sound like a complicated scientific =
process.

B=FAi

Harrison Owen wrote:=20

Bui =96 I guess I must have misspoke, or something, but the truth of the
matter is that no small amount of thought has been devoted to the
interesting question of why and how OS works. My personal favorite is =
the
theoretical basis offered by the Chaos/Complexity folks as they deal =
with
self-organizing systems. (For a quick look at that you might check out
http://openspaceworld.com/emergent_order.htm ) And I am sure that the
conversation could be much deeper and more meaningful when other =
theoretical
perspectives (points of view) are brought in. Brendan=92s Psychology =
Professor
would be a good one, and your background in Conflict resolution, the =
same.
By the way, did you ever wander through my book, =93The Practice of =
Peace=94?

=20

Harrison

=20

Harrison Owen

7808 River Falls Drive

Potomac, Maryland   20854

Phone 301-365-2093

Skype hhowen

Open Space Training  <http://www.openspaceworld.com/> =
www.openspaceworld.com


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-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bui K.
Petersen
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:13 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Open Space -- A Quiet Revolution

=20

I have heard it mentioned many times (and Harrison mentioned this again
recently) that we don't exactly why OST works. I believe that there are
several theories that can explain why it works so well. Suzanna offers =
one
explanation (a theory that I did not know before), but I am sure there =
are
many others.

Coming from a conflict resolution background, I can think of at least a
couple of possible explanations myself. I am not a theorist so I am not
going into detail. One of the most popular conflict theories is based on
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.  The Hierarchy consists of (the lower ones
being more basic):
-Self Actualization Needs (full potential)
-Ego Needs (self respect, personal worth, autonomy)
-Social Needs (love, friendship, comradeship)
-Security Needs (protection from danger)
-Physiological Needs (warmth, shelter, food)
(Wikipedia has some more information
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs>  )

I am myself not convinced that this order applies to everyone, and at =
all
times, but nevertheless OST is a great vehicle for people to satisfy =
many of
the "higher" needs.

Another factor that mediators (and facilitators etc.) always have to =
play
close attention to, is the dynamics of power, and many (if not most) =
group
decision-making processes have to deal with the challenge of some people
trying to dominate with their power and others trying to compensate for
their lack of power (often through disruptive means).

The amazing thing with OST is that the Law of Two Feet takes care of all
this. You don't have to be dominated by someone else because you can =
always
leave. You can join whatever group you want. You can also propose your =
own
topic and take responsibility for it too. Very empowering.

I say all this without having experienced an OS event yet myself, but it =
all
makes complete sense to me. I am sure there are others that know theory =
a
lot better than I do, I would imagine that if someone so desired, it =
would
be very possible to make a detailed theoretical explanation of OST.

I hope this makes sense.

B=FAi


Suzanna Stephan wrote:=20

Hello all,

I guess I feel initiated enough to jump in after attending my first os =
event
- the New England SOS hosted by Frank Deitle and facilitated by Blake =
Mills
(confirming my suspicions after being an oslist voyeur for quite some =
time
that you are a wonderful and unique group of people - it was a lovely
experience) so I'm going to jump in and add to the concept of os as
therapeutic...

As a student of The Human Design System I've become quite keen on the
dynamics at play when we are not living in accordance with our design. =
(The
Human Design System has scientifically documented the authenticity of =
not
only the impact of the time of birth on human behavior but as =
importantly
confirmed that we each have a genetic blueprint that impacts our system
energetically, manifesting itself as personality preferences, traits,
challenges and purpose.) Hopefully I haven't lost you yet, please stay =
with
me...

So much of our experiences in life conditions us away from our nature, =
our
natural rhythms. We get lost in the have to's, shoulds, etc., that we =
lose
the sense of these natural tendencies. Our current social indoctrination =
and
subsequent organizations that we work for/with just reinforce the
enslavement. So an os event may sometimes be the first time in a very =
long
time that adults get permission to reaccess their inner authority. When =
I
came across ost and ai last summer, it immediately clicked that these =
were
opportunities to provide the environment to reaccess our nature without
necessarily having to get into the details of the esoterics which can =
scare
a lot of mainstream folks. The law of 2 feet to me is people acting on =
that
inner authority (which may accurately be called the Law of Self
Responsibility) and will not only keep you healthy but at the right =
place at
the right time...which some might describe as fulfilling your purpose. =
Who
doesn't feel better when you get to follow your own natural rhythms vs =
the
dictates of others.=20

Challenge is, like a caged animal that never leaves once the door is =
opened,
we have to relearn what we shut down. I saw this in action when people =
are
first given the opportunity to operate in open space, many looking for
permission that what they want to do is ok. Over time you could see the
loosening of the constraints. So from my view the os process is like
training wheels back to our true self. Quite theraputic indeed.=20

Thanks for the opportunity to share and for the richness that you all =
bring
both here and to the world.

Please keep me posted on any events happening or facilitation needed in =
the
Mid Atlantic Area.

Warmly,
Suzanna Stephan
Virginia Beach, VA
757.621.3560


I know that there are many such stories in the OS chronicles - such=20
'liberation' is a joy to see and costs nothing in therapeutic fees -=20
a quiet (and inexpensive) revolution indeed!

Cheers
Brendan


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style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>It is all a joke – the =
“science”
of Open Space, and “technology.” It is true, so far as I =
know, that
no serious scientist has ever bothered with Open Space – which =
always
seemed odd to me if only because it is a wonderful ongoing natural =
experiment
concerned with (amongst other things) the power and effect of =
self-organization
in human systems. How the scientific community could overlook this =
goldmine of
experimentation is a mystery to me (which may not be all that =
mysterious). But
it really is a wonderful natural experiment. We have very clear cut =
“experimental
conditions” – a defined procedure, and a growing body of
experimental results. Of course, as a natural experiment, it =
didn’t start
out that way – meaning that many, or most, of the normal =
“experimental
controls” are absent, which may produce a degree of question when =
it
comes to the validity of results. However, as with all natural =
experiments,
when the number of iterations becomes large – those large numbers =
usually
serve as adequate controls. Since we are well over 60,000 iterations in =
124
countries, I think we have the numbers. So when I said that there was =
not a “shred
of scientific evidence.” My tongue was in my cheek. Cheeky of me I =
know, but
maybe Official Science will catch up?</span></font></p>

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–
that too was kind of a joke, for the reason you noted. OS is Simple! In =
self defense
I would point out that OS actually meets the definition of a technology. =
And,
for whatever it is worth, really good, elegant technology is simple, or =
at
least as simple as it can be. Bad technology is complex for the sake of =
complexity,
or even worse, it is complex because the technologist was too lazy or =
possibly
incompetent to strip it down to essentials. </span></font></p>

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nal
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Bui K. Petersen<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February =
15, 2007
12:32 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Open Space =
-- A Quiet
Revolution</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Harrison, I =
think I was
referring to the following quote:<br>
<br>
</span></font></p>

<pre style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack
face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>We all know on the =
strength of our experience that OST is fast, =
fun,</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>effective, cheap, and easy to do. Of course =
we do not have a shred of</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>scientific data to prove that and certainly =
not rigorously conducted</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>research. <span class=3Dmoz-smiley-s1>=A0:-) =
</span>=A0But I am not sure any of that would change much - we =
would</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>doubtless be stuck with our experience. =
However, the question remains - if</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>OST is so good, why doesn't EVERYBODY use it? =
It seems like a total</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>no-brainer!</span></font></pre>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I guess you =
were
referring to the fact that we cannot "prove" it =
scientifically. As
with all social (or is it human) sciences, no experiment can be =
identically
reproduced. I don't think OST is at any more disadvantage than anything =
else to
be researched. For most of us it doesn't matter that much why it works. =
Where
just excited about how well it works. However, it is always interesting =
to look
at something from different theoretical perspectives as you often gain =
new
insight from that.<br>
<br>
And as with selling anything (cars, fridges, OST, etc.), buyers don't =
care
about the science behind it. They just want it to work.<br>
<br>
P.S. I have always wondered why you decided to call it Open Space
"TECHNOLOGY". I almost makes it sound like a complicated =
scientific
process.<br>
<br>
B=FAi<br>
<br>
Harrison Owen wrote: </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dred face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Bui – I =
guess I must
have misspoke, or something, but the truth of the matter is that no =
small
amount of thought has been devoted to the interesting question of why =
and how
OS works. My personal favorite is the theoretical basis offered by the
Chaos/Complexity folks as they deal with self-organizing systems. (For a =
quick
look at that you might check out <a
href=3D"http://openspaceworld.com/emergent_order.htm">http://openspacewor=
ld.com/emergent_order.htm</a>
) And I am sure that the conversation could be much deeper and more =
meaningful
when other theoretical perspectives (points of view) are brought in.
Brendan’s Psychology Professor would be a good one, and your =
background
in Conflict resolution, the same. By the way, did you ever wander =
through my
book, “The Practice of Peace”?</span></font></p>

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color=3Dred face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></fon=
t></p>

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color=3Dred face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Harrison</span></f=
ont></p>

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color=3Dred face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></fon=
t></p>

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size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Harrison
Owen</span></font></p>

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size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>7808
River Falls Drive</span></font></p>

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size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Potomac,
Maryland   20854</span></font></p>

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color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
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301-365-2093</span></font></p>

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hhowen</span></font></p>

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color=3Dred face=3DArial><span
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t></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'>-----Origi=
nal
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST [<a
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOI=
SESTATE.EDU</a>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bui K. =
Petersen<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February =
13, 2007
4:13 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE=
.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Open Space =
-- A Quiet
Revolution</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I have heard =
it mentioned
many times (and Harrison mentioned this again recently) that we don't =
exactly
why OST works. I believe that there are several theories that can =
explain why
it works so well. Suzanna offers one explanation (a theory that I did =
not know
before), but I am sure there are many others.<br>
<br>
Coming from a conflict resolution background, I can think of at least a =
couple
of possible explanations myself. I am not a theorist so I am not going =
into
detail. One of the most popular conflict theories is based on Maslow's =
Hierarchy
of Needs.  The Hierarchy consists of (the lower ones being more =
basic):<br>
-Self Actualization Needs (full potential)<br>
-Ego Needs (self respect, personal worth, autonomy)<br>
-Social Needs (love, friendship, comradeship)<br>
-Security Needs (protection from danger)<br>
-Physiological Needs (warmth, shelter, food)<br>
(Wikipedia has some more information <a
href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs">http:=
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs</a>
)<br>
<br>
I am myself not convinced that this order applies to everyone, and at =
all
times, but nevertheless OST is a great vehicle for people to satisfy =
many of
the "higher" needs.<br>
<br>
Another factor that mediators (and facilitators etc.) always have to =
play close
attention to, is the dynamics of power, and many (if not most) group
decision-making processes have to deal with the challenge of some people =
trying
to dominate with their power and others trying to compensate for their =
lack of
power (often through disruptive means).<br>
<br>
The amazing thing with OST is that the Law of Two Feet takes care of all =
this.
You don't have to be dominated by someone else because you can always =
leave.
You can join whatever group you want. You can also propose your own =
topic and
take responsibility for it too. Very empowering.<br>
<br>
I say all this without having experienced an OS event yet myself, but it =
all
makes complete sense to me. I am sure there are others that know theory =
a lot
better than I do, I would imagine that if someone so desired, it would =
be very
possible to make a detailed theoretical explanation of OST.<br>
<br>
I hope this makes sense.<br>
<br>
B=FAi<br>
<br>
<br>
Suzanna Stephan wrote: </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hello all,<br>
<br>
I guess I feel initiated enough to jump in after attending my first os =
event -
the New England SOS hosted by Frank Deitle and facilitated by Blake =
Mills
(confirming my suspicions after being an oslist voyeur for quite some =
time that
you are a wonderful and unique group of people - it was a lovely =
experience) so
I'm going to jump in and add to the concept of os as therapeutic...<br>
<br>
As a student of The Human Design System I've become quite keen on the =
dynamics
at play when we are not living in accordance with our design. (The Human =
Design
System has scientifically documented the authenticity of not only the =
impact of
the time of birth on human behavior but as importantly confirmed that we =
each
have a genetic blueprint that impacts our system energetically, =
manifesting
itself as personality preferences, traits, challenges and purpose.) =
Hopefully I
haven't lost you yet, please stay with me...<br>
<br>
So much of our experiences in life conditions us away from our nature, =
our
natural rhythms. We get lost in the have to's, shoulds, etc., that we =
lose the
sense of these natural tendencies. Our current social indoctrination and
subsequent organizations that we work for/with just reinforce the =
enslavement.
So an os event may sometimes be the first time in a very long time that =
adults
get permission to reaccess their inner authority. When I came across ost =
and ai
last summer, it immediately clicked that these were opportunities to =
provide
the environment to reaccess our nature without necessarily having to get =
into
the details of the esoterics which can scare a lot of mainstream folks. =
The law
of 2 feet to me is people acting on that inner authority (which may =
accurately
be called the Law of Self Responsibility) and will not only keep you =
healthy
but at the right place at the right time...which some might describe as
fulfilling your purpose. Who doesn't feel better when you get to follow =
your
own natural rhythms vs the dictates of others. <br>
<br>
Challenge is, like a caged animal that never leaves once the door is =
opened, we
have to relearn what we shut down. I saw this in action when people are =
first
given the opportunity to operate in open space, many looking for =
permission
that what they want to do is ok. Over time you could see the loosening =
of the
constraints. So from my view the os process is like training wheels back =
to our
true self. Quite theraputic indeed. <br>
<br>
Thanks for the opportunity to share and for the richness that you all =
bring
both here and to the world.<br>
<br>
Please keep me posted on any events happening or facilitation needed in =
the Mid
Atlantic Area.<br>
<br>
Warmly,<br>
Suzanna Stephan<br>
Virginia Beach, VA<br>
757.621.3560</span></font></p>

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color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
I know that there are many such stories in the OS chronicles - such <br>
'liberation' is a joy to see and costs nothing in therapeutic fees - =
<br>
a quiet (and inexpensive) revolution indeed!<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Brendan</span></font></p>

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=93I wonder how empowering it is for the individual left behind?=94



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Well, if that =93difficult=94 person was a command and control boss =96 =
it is
possible, though perhaps not likely, that he will learn something. Then
again, he might go and seek alternative employment. Or =96 all those =
folks he
was intimidating might do the same thing. Sometimes the universe has to =
hit
you on the side of the head with a 2X4 just to get your attention. =
Painful,
but effective.

=20

Harrison

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bui K.
Petersen
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:31 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Law of Two Feet

=20

Thanks for the reassurance, Jack.

However, I am not as concerned about the to the topic and the =
conversation
as I am with the affect on the "difficult" individual. While it may be
empowering for people to simply leave an unfruitful conversation, I =
wonder
how empowering it is for the individual left behind?

B=FAi

Jack Ricchiuto wrote:=20

Bui,

This does happen and can hurt the development of content around an =
otherwise
attractive topic. If the self-organizing soil of the group is fertile
enough, people will continue the conversation in different places and in
different ways, the way water will flow around rocks to whatever =
openings
available. When people with passion are given freedom, good things =
happen no
matter what.=20

Translation: not to worry.

Be well,

Jack

On 2/15/07, Bui K. Petersen <bui at buildconsensus.ca
<mailto:bui at buildconsensus.ca> > wrote:=20

As someone who is still just learning and trying to find out how and =
when
OST can be used, I am curious about people's experience with the effect =
the
Law of Two Feet can have on irritating dominating personalities. Say for
example that someone is dominating a group and practically annoying =
everyone
else with the result of them using their two feet and leaving. How does =
this
affect the person left behind? I have some concerns about what could =
happen
to this person but before I mention them, I am interested to hear what
others have experienced.

Curious!

B=FAi



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Roman"><span
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perhaps
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alternative employment. Or – all those folks he was intimidating =
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head
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effective.</span></font></p>

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Maryland   20854</span></font></p>

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Behalf Of </span></b>Bui K. Petersen<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February =
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2:31 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Law of Two =
Feet</span></font></p>

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color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks for the
reassurance, Jack.<br>
<br>
However, I am not as concerned about the to the topic and the =
conversation as I
am with the affect on the "difficult" individual. While it may =
be
empowering for people to simply leave an unfruitful conversation, I =
wonder how
empowering it is for the individual left behind?<br>
<br>
B=FAi<br>
<br>
Jack Ricchiuto wrote: </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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.5in'><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Bui,<br>
<br>
This does happen and can hurt the development of content around an =
otherwise
attractive topic. If the self-organizing soil of the group is fertile =
enough,
people will continue the conversation in different places and in =
different
ways, the way water will flow around rocks to whatever openings =
available. When
people with passion are given freedom, good things happen no matter =
what. <br>
<br>
Translation: not to worry.<br>
<br>
Be well,<br>
<br>
Jack</span></font></p>

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class=3Dgmailquote><font
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On
2/15/07, <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Bui K. Petersen</span></b> =
<<a
href=3D"mailto:bui at buildconsensus.ca">bui at buildconsensus.ca </a>> =
wrote:</span></font></span>
</p>

<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">

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.5in'><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>As someone who is still just learning and trying to find out how =
and
when OST can be used, I am curious about people's experience with the =
effect
the Law of Two Feet can have on irritating dominating personalities. Say =
for
example that someone is dominating a group and practically annoying =
everyone
else with the result of them using their two feet and leaving. How does =
this
affect the person left behind? I have some concerns about what could =
happen to
this person but before I mention them, I am interested to hear what =
others have
experienced.<br>
<br>
Curious!<br>
<br>
B=FAi<br>
<br>
</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'> <em><i><font
face=3DHelvetica><span style=3D'font-family:Helvetica'>Cert. =
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