Harvest OSonOS's?

Thu Feb 8 00:54:40 PST 2007

The best deal is probably to buy an around the world ticket.
And if there's enough of us, we might actually get them at a fair price

Gerard

On Feb 8, 2007, at 12:13 AM, John Engle wrote:

> and don't forget about Haiti. the 6th annual haiti OSONOS will be June  
> 28 to July 1.
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> john engle
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> Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:The Dutch OSONOS is March,  
> and I think the Canadian OSI is in April. Then we get to May (Kiev)  
> â€“ and September for Camden. As I say we already have about half the  
> year covered.
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>> Michael Herman
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:48 PM
>> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Harvest OSonOS's?
>>  
>> i agree, chris.  i think a frame that's smaller than the whole year  
>> is useful in bounding a global osonos "event" -- among other  
>> regional/local osonos events.
>>
>>  is the moon/week too short with the holidays mixed in.  might we  
>> taake the month? 
>>
>>  will there be proceedings produced at camden, harrison?  could they  
>> be posted online, even if only a single pdf document, as fodder for  
>> other osonos's held that month? 
>>
>>  is september/harvest a big enough window for something to fit  
>> between holidays in israel?
>>
>>  when is larry and diane's osonos? 
>>
>>  is there something planned down under?  or when has osonos oz/nz  
>> usually happened?  brian?  brendan?
>>
>>  anybody else want to convene something inside of a september/harvest  
>> frame?
>>
>>  mh
>>
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>>   
>> On 2/7/07, Chris Corrigan <chris at chriscorrigan.com> wrote:
>> Hi there:
>>
>>  Well, I'm not attached to the Harvest Moon week, and it seems to be  
>> an important holiday for other northern hemisphere cultures, being as  
>> it is between Yom Kippur and Sukkot.  My intention though was to  
>> follow up on the ideas that had been posted about convening many  
>> OSonOS's around the world during the same week.  It seems important  
>> to find a frame to hold all of these together, and I thought the  
>> Equinox/harvest moon would be a good one, being a time of similar  
>> daylight between the north and the south.
>>
>>  At any rate, yeah...
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 2/7/07, Harrison Owen < hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Somehow I missed this one â€“ or at least I missed Chris's original.  
>>> Gremlins? But I think we have a germ (may I say gem) of an idea. But  
>>> I must point out, Chris, that what for you is a "Harvest Moon" would  
>>> have to be a Spring Moon for all our friends south of the equator.  
>>> Or maybe the Moon isn't even out there? Oh well, everybody sees  
>>> everything from their own point of view. Or we might say something  
>>> like "Hemi-Centric" â€“ right up there with Eurocentric,  
>>> Ethnocentric?
>>>  
>>> But I really do like the notion of linking OSONOSs even if they  
>>> don't all happen at the same time. In fact there would be some nice  
>>> poetry if they happened randomly through out the year. To borrow a  
>>> phrase from the Brits â€“ "Neither the Sun nor the Season will ever  
>>> set on Open Space!" And in fact that seems to be happening already  
>>> without a plan or intention. Gerard is inviting people to The  
>>> Netherlands, I saw something from Larry Peterson and Diane about an  
>>> OSONOS in Canada. Then we come to the wonderful gathering in Kiev,  
>>> followed by yet another warm open space by the Sea â€“ And if you  
>>> were to create something on Bowen Island in September, we would  
>>> already have about half the year covered. I just love it when a plan  
>>> comes together!
>>>  
>>> Harrison
>>>  
>>>  
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>>> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of  
>>> Michael Herman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:49 PM
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>>> Subject: Harvest OSonOS's?
>>>  
>>> is this going forward then, chris?  if you post this up to your  
>>> site, i can link to it in the osonos section.  did anyone else  
>>> decide to convene something in this same timeframe?  does it make  
>>> sense to make september/harvest an osonos month, and so capture  
>>> osonos by the sea in this net, as well as giving avner a bit more  
>>> room to work?  is the osonos the month and "harvesting the  
>>> learnings" the de facto theme?  i want to add this to the osonos  
>>> page, but need some specific invites to link to.  chris?  avner?   
>>> harrison?  anybody else? 
>>>
>>>  mh
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/22/07, Chris Corrigan < chris at chriscorrigan.com> wrote:
>>> Friends:
>>>
>>>  If I have understood Harrison correctly over all the years he has  
>>> been talking about Open Space, he has always had an aspiration that  
>>> the process become so ubiquitous that it disappear into a fabric of  
>>> "business as usual" while at the same time changing business as  
>>> usual, much as brainstorming has since its discovery in the 1950s as  
>>> a simple but powerful technique for unlocking creativity in groups.
>>>
>>>  It has seemed to me that over the past ten years the movement of  
>>> Open Space has been dispersing far and wide.  It used to be that  
>>> there were only a handful of trainings for example and I knew all of  
>>> the trainers.   Now Open Space training is offered everywhere by  
>>> people who none of us in the "core community" of practitioners have  
>>> ever heard of.  OST is being used in all kinds of settings and what  
>>> we are learning about leadership, organization and management is  
>>> being deeply internalized into practice and life. 
>>>
>>>  It seems that the movement of who we are and what we know has been  
>>> scattered to the winds and that is a beautiful thing.  It is  
>>> something that could never have happened if Harrison had retained  
>>> control over the process, or if everything was centralized into one  
>>> set of licenses for training and use.  OST is used every day in  
>>> hundreds of different contexts and its spirit permeates many  
>>> organizations, communities and personal practices.
>>>
>>>  And so. the evolution of this conversation seems timely.  As much  
>>> as I also have enjoyed the OSonOS events (and I co-hosted one of  
>>> them) I can see the wisdom and delight in what Michael Herman has  
>>> proposed.  A worldwide Open Space week, self-organized, possibly  
>>> interconnected or possibly not in which many gatherings on many  
>>> scales could take place is a brilliant and accurate reflection of  
>>> our community of practice.  Better than having 200 people gathering  
>>> one place, having 200 gatherings of 50 people in many places would  
>>> be a monumental testament to the ubiquitous nature of this  
>>> incredibly fluid process.  As far as I know, none of the  
>>> organizational change practitioner's communities has anything like  
>>> this.
>>>
>>>  To me it is the difference between watching the moon eclipse the  
>>> sun, and watching a full moon rise.  Both incredibly beautiful  
>>> events, but different.  But the solar eclipse is only visible to a  
>>> very tiny slice of the world, and when one occurs, those of us who  
>>> are outside of that range can only follow along on the web or TV and  
>>> envy those who got to be there.
>>>
>>>  But sharing the experience of watching a full moon rise is totally  
>>> different.  Lovers separated by many miles often do this,  feeling  
>>> connected in the moment with their partner, sharing a common  
>>> experience of beauty.  We appreciate the event together and we  
>>> appreciate the fact that we are doing it together, no matter where  
>>> we are. 
>>>
>>>  And so, what if we chose the week of the harvest moon for our week  
>>> of gatherings?  In the northern hemisphere, the harvest moon is the  
>>> full moon closest to the autumnal equinox, usually occurring in late  
>>> September or early October.  The harvest moon marks the time of year  
>>> when the harvest of the year's bounty begins.  The days and night  
>>> are roughly equal in length and the tides are reasonably equal as  
>>> well.  It is a time of equanimity and rededication to the communal  
>>> effort of harvesting what we have sown. 
>>>
>>> This year the harvest moon is September 26th.  What if all over the  
>>> world, during the week of September 24, we gathered in large to  
>>> small groups for a day or two or more and held open space on open  
>>> spaces, to harvest what we have sown, learn from one another and  
>>> contribute to a worldwide learning inquiry about the edge of our  
>>> practice, and the incredible evolving story of Open Space?
>>>
>>>  If others feel like this is a good idea, I will start the ball  
>>> rolling by committing to having one here on Bowen Island, near  
>>> Vancouver, Canada that week, let us say September 25-26-27.  It will  
>>> be in a rustic setting, and it will be cheap and accessible.  Anyone  
>>> who wants to gather with me from near and far is invited.  We will  
>>> enjoy each other in two days of Open Space and on the evening of  
>>> September 26, we will go down to the beach looking east across the  
>>> mouth of Howe Sound to the North American mainland and watch the  
>>> harvest moon rise, knowing that as we are doing so, many of our  
>>> friends and colleagues will have seen that same moon emerge over  
>>> their gatherings in Siberia, Zimbabwe, Belgium, the United States,  
>>> Colombia and Haiti?  And then we will post our proceedings on our  
>>> worldwide web site and relish in the conversations shared with  
>>> others across our world.
>>>
>>>  What say you, friends?
>>>
>>>  Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/21/07, Christine Whitney Sanchez < milagro27 at cox.net > wrote:
>>> As Larry, Doug, Eva and others have said, I like the hugging/dancing  
>>> kind of OSonOS.  And I am also intrigued with the idea of a whole  
>>> bunch of OSonOS's self-organizing at the same time as the  
>>> international one, incorporating Gabriella's fabulous  
>>> OpenSpace-Online. 
>>>  
>>> I favor the practice of hosting the international OSonOS on  
>>> different continents every year.  What I most want is a way to  
>>> connect with all of you, face-to-face, heart-to-heart that offers  
>>> the greatest possibility for diversity of languages, cultures, world  
>>> views and hugging styles. 
>>>  
>>> Namastï¿½,
>>>  
>>> Christine
>>>  
>>> CWS - Collaborative Wisdom & Strategy
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>>> From: OSLIST [mailto: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of  
>>> Michael Herman
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:18 PM
>>> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: SV: Michael Pannwitz's comment about OSonOS 2008 in  
>>> Berlin
>>> what if the decision-making process was simply about picking a  
>>> single week of the year in which osonos would be perhaps permanently  
>>> fixed?  
>>>
>>>  then, within that timeframe, anyone could convene an osonos  
>>> anywhere in the world.  all of the locations would have an opening,  
>>> a bulletin board, and a marketplace.  all of the issues and notes  
>>> would be posted online in the same place.  and all of the topics  
>>> from everywhere posted on the wall in each place. 
>>>
>>>  when 100+ people gather for two days, nobody can go to every group  
>>> or meet all the people, but  it's still informative to read the  
>>> whole of the wall.  so everybody could meet wherever was best for  
>>> them.  some would travel far and cross-pollinate.  some would travel  
>>> near and perhaps get involved in more local actions. 
>>>
>>>  the whole of it together would be *the* international osonos,  
>>> simultanteously global and local.  if you want a european hug, go to  
>>> a gathering in europe.  if you're strapped for cash or time, go  
>>> local, host somethign small where you are, or just visit online.   
>>> what a great thing that anyone globally could convene an osonos  
>>> gathering and be able for just a few days share issues and notes  
>>> printed out from all over the world on their own little local wall.   
>>> might not get a german or australian or canadian or whatever sort of  
>>> hug is exotic to you, but maybe get a good local hug after a good  
>>> discussion of an issue raised 1/2 way around the world!
>>>
>>>  then, regional and local gatherings would be everything else,  
>>> through out the world and throughout the year.
>>>
>>>  mh
>>>
>>> On 1/20/07, Eva P Svensson <eva at epshumaninvest.se> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> Even though I haven't been on all OSonOS's I have come to love and  
>>> cherish them very much! It is soooo important â€“ at least for me  
>>> â€“ to see the people I "talk to" here on the list â€“ the energy in  
>>> face to face meeting and talking can never occur in an online  
>>> meeting. I know that for myself it was much easier to "speak out" on  
>>> this list after have seen some of you in my first OSonOS in Denmark  
>>> a few years ago, and after that I was kind of home â€“ wanting to go  
>>> to them all â€“ and so I have â€“ except from Moscow. Planning to go  
>>> to Kiev though.
>>>  And I agree with Larry â€“ hugging my computer is both dull and  
>>> uncomfortable J
>>> I really love the initial idea of moving from continent to continent  
>>> â€“ in that way there is almost always an OSonOS nearby if not every  
>>> year so at least every second or third.
>>> So my two ï¿½re's thought is that we keep that rhythm. And that we  
>>> have THE OSonOS once a year. There will always be regional, local,  
>>> national OSonOS's and that's fine â€“ could be a great compliment or  
>>> input to the big one â€“ I know that's how we think about our  
>>> Scandinavian OSonOS that will be in Sweden this year.
>>>  
>>> All the best from a stormy west coast of Sweden
>>> :o)
>>> Eva
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Bï¿½sta hï¿½lsningar
>>>  
>>> Eva P Svensson
>>>  
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>>>  
>>>
>>> Frï¿½n: OSLIST [mailto: OSLIST@ LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] Fï¿½r  
>>> Joelle Lyons Everett
>>>
>>> Skickat: den 20 januari 2007 01:59
>>> Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>>> ï¿½mne: Re: Michael Pannwitz's comment about OSonOS 2008 in Berlin
>>>  
>>>
>>>  In a message dated 1/19/07 2:21:24 PM, larry at spiritedorg.com writes:
>>>
>>> The face to face connections and support are not things I can get  
>>> from a
>>>  virtual event. Hugging my computer monitor is just not the same.   
>>> So, I
>>>  support a focus on a World Wide event where the chance of worldwide
>>>  participation is high.  So I can connect to both old and new  
>>> friends.
>>>  Maybe that is no longer possible in our virtual and tension filled
>>>  world, but I still want it.
>>>
>>>  I'm with Larry on this!  I like having a worldwide event, and like  
>>> moving it to various parts of the world.  My travel budget is  
>>> slimmer than it used to be, and overseas travel is more difficult  
>>> now that I have some severe diet restrictions.  But a worldwide  
>>> OSONOS is always going to be a top priority.
>>>
>>>  Maybe we need something like what Gabriela suggested, a voting  
>>> process that lets those of us who are unable to be physically  
>>> present participate in choosing the next location.  I'm delighted  
>>> that the Ukraine has such a thriving OS community, and that they  
>>> enthusiastically invited us there.  But for myself, I am  
>>> disappointed to have the annual gathering two years in a row in  
>>> locations which present some big challenges for me.  I'd like to see  
>>> us return the the idea we proposed when we first moved OSONOS away  
>>> from North America--to move from continent to continent, to include  
>>> local participants from many regions and to make the travel easier  
>>> for a diffferent group each time.
>>>
>>>  Regional OSONOS and internet connections are great, but a face to  
>>> face, worldwide OSONOS is something very special.  I want to be a  
>>> part of that as often as I can.
>>>
>>>  Joelle Everett
>>>  Shelton, Washington, USA 
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