Harvest OSonOS's?

Michael Herman michael at michaelherman.com
Wed Feb 7 10:47:34 PST 2007


i agree, chris.  i think a frame that's smaller than the whole year is
useful in bounding a global osonos "event" -- among other regional/local
osonos events.

is the moon/week too short with the holidays mixed in.  might we take the
month?

will there be proceedings produced at camden, harrison?  could they be
posted online, even if only a single pdf document, as fodder for other
osonos's held that month?

is september/harvest a big enough window for something to fit between
holidays in israel?

when is larry and diane's osonos?

is there something planned down under?  or when has osonos oz/nz usually
happened?  brian?  brendan?

anybody else want to convene something inside of a september/harvest frame?

mh






On 2/7/07, Chris Corrigan <chris at chriscorrigan.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there:
>
> Well, I'm not attached to the Harvest Moon week, and it seems to be an
> important holiday for other northern hemisphere cultures, being as it is
> between Yom Kippur and Sukkot.  My intention though was to follow up on the
> ideas that had been posted about convening many OSonOS's around the world
> during the same week.  It seems important to find a frame to hold all of
> these together, and I thought the Equinox/harvest moon would be a good one,
> being a time of similar daylight between the north and the south.
>
> At any rate, yeah...
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 2/7/07, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >  Somehow I missed this one – or at least I missed Chris's original.
> > Gremlins? But I think we have a germ (may I say gem) of an idea. But I must
> > point out, Chris, that what for you is a "Harvest Moon" would have to be a
> > Spring Moon for all our friends south of the equator. Or maybe the Moon
> > isn't even out there? Oh well, everybody sees everything from their own
> > point of view. Or we might say something like "Hemi-Centric" – right up
> > there with Eurocentric, Ethnocentric?
> >
> >
> >
> > But I really do like the notion of linking OSONOSs even if they don't
> > all happen at the same time. In fact there would be some nice poetry if they
> > happened randomly through out the year. To borrow a phrase from the Brits –
> > "Neither the Sun nor the Season will ever set on Open Space!" And in fact
> > that seems to be happening already without a plan or intention. Gerard is
> > inviting people to The Netherlands, I saw something from Larry Peterson
> > and Diane about an OSONOS in Canada. Then we come to the wonderful
> > gathering in Kiev, followed by yet another warm open space by the Sea –
> > And if you were to create something on Bowen Island in September, we
> > would already have about half the year covered. I just love it when a plan
> > comes together!
> >
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> > *From:* OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Michael
> > Herman
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:49 PM
> > *To:* OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> > *Subject:* Harvest OSonOS's?
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> >
> > is this going forward then, chris?  if you post this up to your site, i
> > can link to it in the osonos section.  did anyone else decide to convene
> > something in this same timeframe?  does it make sense to make
> > september/harvest an osonos month, and so capture osonos by the sea in this
> > net, as well as giving avner a bit more room to work?  is the osonos the
> > month and "harvesting the learnings" the de facto theme?  i want to add this
> > to the osonos page, but need some specific invites to link to.  chris?
> > avner?  harrison?  anybody else?
> >
> > mh
> >
> >
> >
> >  On 1/22/07, *Chris Corrigan* < chris at chriscorrigan.com> wrote:
> >
> > Friends:
> >
> > If I have understood Harrison correctly over all the years he has been
> > talking about Open Space, he has always had an aspiration that the process
> > become so ubiquitous that it disappear into a fabric of "business as usual"
> > while at the same time changing business as usual, much as brainstorming has
> > since its discovery in the 1950s as a simple but powerful technique for
> > unlocking creativity in groups.
> >
> > It has seemed to me that over the past ten years the movement of Open
> > Space has been dispersing far and wide.  It used to be that there were only
> > a handful of trainings for example and I knew all of the trainers.   Now
> > Open Space training is offered everywhere by people who none of us in the
> > "core community" of practitioners have ever heard of.  OST is being used in
> > all kinds of settings and what we are learning about leadership,
> > organization and management is being deeply internalized into practice and
> > life.
> >
> > It seems that the movement of who we are and what we know has been
> > scattered to the winds and that is a beautiful thing.  It is something that
> > could never have happened if Harrison had retained control over the process,
> > or if everything was centralized into one set of licenses for training and
> > use.  OST is used every day in hundreds of different contexts and its spirit
> > permeates many organizations, communities and personal practices.
> >
> > And so. the evolution of this conversation seems timely.  As much as I
> > also have enjoyed the OSonOS events (and I co-hosted one of them) I can see
> > the wisdom and delight in what Michael Herman has proposed.  A worldwide
> > Open Space week, self-organized, possibly interconnected or possibly not in
> > which many gatherings on many scales could take place is a brilliant and
> > accurate reflection of our community of practice.  Better than having 200
> > people gathering one place, having 200 gatherings of 50 people in many
> > places would be a monumental testament to the ubiquitous nature of this
> > incredibly fluid process.  As far as I know, none of the organizational
> > change practitioner's communities has anything like this.
> >
> > To me it is the difference between watching the moon eclipse the sun,
> > and watching a full moon rise.  Both incredibly beautiful events, but
> > different.  But the solar eclipse is only visible to a very tiny slice of
> > the world, and when one occurs, those of us who are outside of that range
> > can only follow along on the web or TV and envy those who got to be there.
> >
> > But sharing the experience of watching a full moon rise is totally
> > different.  Lovers separated by many miles often do this,  feeling connected
> > in the moment with their partner, sharing a common experience of beauty.  We
> > appreciate the event together and we appreciate the fact that we are doing
> > it together, no matter where we are.
> >
> > And so, what if we chose the week of the harvest moon for our week of
> > gatherings?  In the northern hemisphere, the harvest moon is the full moon
> > closest to the autumnal equinox, usually occurring in late September or
> > early October.  The harvest moon marks the time of year when the harvest of
> > the year's bounty begins.  The days and night are roughly equal in length
> > and the tides are reasonably equal as well.  It is a time of equanimity and
> > rededication to the communal effort of harvesting what we have sown.
> >
> > This year the harvest moon is September 26th<http://www.farmersalmanac.com/astronomy/fullmoons.html>.
> > What if all over the world, during the week of September 24, we gathered in
> > large to small groups for a day or two or more and held open space on open
> > spaces, to harvest what we have sown, learn from one another and contribute
> > to a worldwide learning inquiry about the edge of our practice, and the
> > incredible evolving story of Open Space?
> >
> > If others feel like this is a good idea, I will start the ball rolling
> > by committing to having one here on Bowen Island, near Vancouver, Canada
> > that week, let us say September 25-26-27.  It will be in a rustic setting,
> > and it will be cheap and accessible.  Anyone who wants to gather with me
> > from near and far is invited.  We will enjoy each other in two days of Open
> > Space and on the evening of September 26, we will go down to the beach
> > looking east across the mouth of Howe Sound to the North American mainland
> > and watch the harvest moon rise, knowing that as we are doing so, many of
> > our friends and colleagues will have seen that same moon emerge over their
> > gatherings in Siberia, Zimbabwe, Belgium, the United States, Colombia and
> > Haiti?  And then we will post our proceedings on our worldwide web site and
> > relish in the conversations shared with others across our world.
> >
> > What say you, friends?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  On 1/21/07, *Christine Whitney Sanchez* < milagro27 at cox.net > wrote:
> >
> > As Larry, Doug, Eva and others have said, I like the hugging/dancing
> > kind of OSonOS.  And I am also intrigued with the idea of a whole bunch of
> > OSonOS's self-organizing at the same time as the international one,
> > incorporating Gabriella's fabulous OpenSpace-Online.
> >
> >
> >
> > I favor the practice of hosting the international OSonOS on different
> > continents every year.  What I most want is a way to connect with all of
> > you, face-to-face, heart-to-heart that offers the greatest possibility for
> > diversity of languages, cultures, world views and hugging styles.
> >
> >
> >
> > Namast�,
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> >
> >
> > *Christine*
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> > *From:* OSLIST [mailto: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Michael
> > Herman
> > *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:18 PM
> > *To:* OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> > *Subject:* Re: SV: Michael Pannwitz's comment about OSonOS 2008 in
> > Berlin
> >
> > what if the decision-making process was simply about picking a single
> > week of the year in which osonos would be perhaps permanently fixed?
> >
> > then, within that timeframe, anyone could convene an osonos anywhere in
> > the world.  all of the locations would have an opening, a bulletin board,
> > and a marketplace.  all of the issues and notes would be posted online in
> > the same place.  and all of the topics from everywhere posted on the wall in
> > each place.
> >
> > when 100+ people gather for two days, nobody can go to every group or
> > meet all the people, but  it's still informative to read the whole of the
> > wall.  so everybody could meet wherever was best for them.  some would
> > travel far and cross-pollinate.  some would travel near and perhaps get
> > involved in more local actions.
> >
> > the whole of it together would be *the* international osonos,
> > simultanteously global and local.  if you want a european hug, go to a
> > gathering in europe.  if you're strapped for cash or time, go local, host
> > somethign small where you are, or just visit online.  what a great thing
> > that anyone globally could convene an osonos gathering and be able for just
> > a few days share issues and notes printed out from all over the world on
> > their own little local wall.  might not get a german or australian or
> > canadian or whatever sort of hug is exotic to you, but maybe get a good
> > local hug after a good discussion of an issue raised 1/2 way around the
> > world!
> >
> > then, regional and local gatherings would be everything else, through
> > out the world and throughout the year.
> >
> > mh
> >
> >
> >  On 1/20/07, *Eva P Svensson *<eva at epshumaninvest.se> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Even though I haven't been on all OSonOS's I have come to love and
> > cherish them very much! It is soooo important – at least for me – to see the
> > people I "talk to" here on the list – the energy in face to face meeting and
> > talking can never occur in an online meeting. I know that for myself it was
> > much easier to "speak out" on this list after have seen some of you in my
> > first OSonOS in Denmark a few years ago, and after that I was kind of home –
> > wanting to go to them all – and so I have – except from Moscow. Planning to
> > go to Kiev though.
> >
> >  And I agree with Larry – hugging my computer is both dull and
> > uncomfortable J
> >
> > I really love the initial idea of moving from continent to continent –
> > in that way there is almost always an OSonOS nearby if not every year so at
> > least every second or third.
> >
> > So my two �re's thought is that we keep that rhythm. And that we have
> > THE OSonOS once a year. There will always be regional, local, national
> > OSonOS's and that's fine – could be a great compliment or input to the big
> > one – I know that's how we think about our Scandinavian OSonOS that will be
> > in Sweden this year.
> >
> >
> >
> > All the best from a stormy west coast of Sweden
> >
> > :o)
> >
> > Eva
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> > *Fr�n:* OSLIST [mailto: OSLIST@ LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] *F�r *Joelle
> > Lyons Everett
> > *Skickat:* den 20 januari 2007 01:59
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> > *�mne:* Re: Michael Pannwitz's comment about OSonOS 2008 in Berlin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/19/07 2:21:24 PM, larry at spiritedorg.com writes:
> >
> >
> >  The face to face connections and support are not things I can get from
> > a
> > virtual event. Hugging my computer monitor is just not the same.  So, I
> > support a focus on a World Wide event where the chance of worldwide
> > participation is high.  So I can connect to both old and new friends.
> > Maybe that is no longer possible in our virtual and tension filled
> > world, but I still want it.
> >
> >
> > I'm with Larry on this!  I like having a worldwide event, and like
> > moving it to various parts of the world.  My travel budget is slimmer than
> > it used to be, and overseas travel is more difficult now that I have some
> > severe diet restrictions.  But a worldwide OSONOS is always going to be a
> > top priority.
> >
> > Maybe we need something like what Gabriela suggested, a voting process
> > that lets those of us who are unable to be physically present participate in
> > choosing the next location.  I'm delighted that the Ukraine has such a
> > thriving OS community, and that they enthusiastically invited us there.  But
> > for myself, I am disappointed to have the annual gathering two years in a
> > row in locations which present some big challenges for me.  I'd like to see
> > us return the the idea we proposed when we first moved OSONOS away from
> > North America--to move from continent to continent, to include local
> > participants from many regions and to make the travel easier for a different
> > group each time.
> >
> > Regional OSONOS and internet connections are great, but a face to face,
> > worldwide OSONOS is something very special.  I want to be a part of that as
> > often as I can.
> >
> > Joelle Everett
> > Shelton, Washington, USA
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