Arts at the Heart

Thu Apr 12 04:02:29 PDT 2007

Dear Jean-Francois!

What a delight to hear from you!  Thank you for
expressing these things... it is wonderful to know
there are like minded souls out there.  Of course I
would be glad if you could attend Burning Man but I am
sure we have lots to talk about either way.

It takes place at the end of August - in the Black
Rock Desert (Nevada)  There is a regional "burn"
somewhere in Texas, but I dont know when or where.

Please introduce me to anyone who may be excited about
the program.  Toronto is actually near to me.  :)

Do you have experience with OST? I am quite new to it.

Thank you! And a thousand blessings!
Gwendelyn
--- Jean-Francois Gouin <jfgouin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Gwen,
> 
> Fabulous idea as a person who is both an artist
> (poet and musician) and a
> Sustainability professional, I have been thinking a
> lot about this and have
> experimented around the subject. My writing and my
> performing are deeply
> related to my interest for Sustainability and it's
> philosophical
> implications. Namely the relation between humans and
> nature and the
> importance of spirituality and intuition in dealing
> with complexity. I find
> that art is a powerful medium to express ideas that
> can only be incompletely
> represented through a rational discourse. It allows
> to reach people at a
> deeper more fondamental level. There, an intimate
> conviction can be stirred,
> reach consciousness and result into action. At the
> same time this reflection
> brings us to the core of what is art and what is its
> social role. This
> encompasses its utilitarian or political functions
> as well as a way to reach
> deeper levels of consciousness and maybe even
> connect to a global
> consciousness.
> 
> Anyhow, I do not recall when the burningman festival
> will occur and it may
> be difficult for me to get to it (I am living in
> France right now and I
> believe it takes place in Texas right?). However, I
> would be happy to
> participate in your project. For instance I still
> have some connections in
> Toronto which may be of use.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Jean-François
> -- 
> __________________________
> Jean-François Gouin
> Consultant Durabilité - Sustainability Consultant
> MUSE - Building Horizons / Constructeur d'Horizons
> jfgouin at gmail.com
> Tel: (+ 33) (0)4 91 73 36 93
> Mobile: (+33) (0)6 81 17 56 97
> 35Bis Boulevard Alexandre Delabre
> 13008 Marseille - France
> 
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>From  Thu Apr 12 12:07:33 2007
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:07:33 +0100
Reply-To: cliodhna at flowstone.org.uk
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From: cliodhna mulhern <cliodhna at flowstone.org.uk>
Subject: Re: AW: climate-neutral flights and drives!
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<P>To quote wikipedia which highlights the views of a fellow Oxford <BR>
resident - George Monbiot:<BR>
<BR>
"Many environmentalists disagree with the principle of carbon offsets. <BR>
George Monbiot </WIKI George_Monbiot>, an English environmentalist and <BR>
writer, has compared carbon offsets to the practice of purchasing <BR>
Indulgences </WIKI Indulgence>during the Middle Ages, whereby people <BR>
with money could purchase forgiveness for their sins (instead of <BR>
actually repenting and not sinning anymore). Monbiot also says that <BR>
carbon offsets are an excuse for business as usual with regards to <BR>
pollution. To date, no authoritative studies have been <BR>
performed concerning offset buyers' behavior (e.g., whether they take <BR>
other measures to reduce their CO_2 output.)"<BR>
<BR>
<A href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_offset" target=3D_blank><SPA=
N style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_offset</SPAN=
></A></P>
<P>------------------------------------------------------------------------=
---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>
Hello Jon and thank you for this posting.  I think George Monbiot's th=
oughts give us a  helpful nudge to be realistic about the limitations =
of carbon offsetting as a strategy while embracing the motivation behind it=
...it is really great that there is such a surge of self-awareness in trave=
l planning and I take my hat off to everyone who is thinking twice about ho=
w to get from A to B...</P>
<P>From the (unusually) sunny Faughan Valley in North West Ireland.<BR>
<BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #800080">Cliodhna Mulhern <BR>
flowstone <BR>
+44(0)7929 328513 <BR>
<BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #32cd32">"All meaningful and lasting change starts fi=
rst in your imagination and then works its way out. Imagination is more imp=
ortant than knowledge. " <BR>
Albert Einstein </SPAN></SPAN><BR>
<BR>
<B>On Wed Apr 11 23:50 , Jon Harvey <ONLY.CONNECT at VIRGIN.NET>sent:<BR>
<BR>
</P></B>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5p=
x; BORDER-LEFT: #5167c6 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Catherine<BR>
<BR>
No - I did not think your posting was a hoax. My response was whimsical <BR>
(perhaps to lighten the mood a little on this listserv at the moment... <BR>
the website I recommended - which I parenthesised - is a real spoof <BR>
website that is quite funny).<BR>
<BR>
But I do think there is a serious point here as well (which lies behind <BR>
the spoof website too) as to whether carbon offsetting is an effective <BR>
response to global warming.<BR>
<BR>
To quote wikipedia which highlights the views of a fellow Oxford <BR>
resident - George Monbiot:<BR>
<BR>
"Many environmentalists disagree with the principle of carbon offsets. <BR>
George Monbiot </WIKI George_Monbiot>, an English environmentalist and <BR>
writer, has compared carbon offsets to the practice of purchasing <BR>
Indulgences </WIKI Indulgence>during the Middle Ages, whereby people <BR>
with money could purchase forgiveness for their sins (instead of <BR>
actually repenting and not sinning anymore). Monbiot also says that <BR>
carbon offsets are an excuse for business as usual with regards to <BR>
pollution.^[15] <#_note-7> To date, no authoritative studies have bee=
n <BR>
performed concerning offset buyers' behavior (e.g., whether they take <BR>
other measures to reduce their CO_2 output.)"<BR>
<BR>
<A href=3D"parse.pl?redirect=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCarbo=
n_offset" target=3D_blank><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">http://en.wikipedi=
a.org/wiki/Carbon_offset</SPAN></A><BR>
<BR>
I do have some sympathies with his point of view. And I do appreciate <BR>
your commitment to using trains. This is a complex area of ethics and I <BR>
am still working out my own standards.<BR>
<BR>
Hope this helps and keeps the space open..<BR>
<BR>
Regards<BR>
<BR>
Jon<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Catherine Pfaehler wrote:<BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Jon, my posting was serious. Did you ch=
eck out the website of</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> <A href=3D"http://mail.uk2.net/parse.pl=
?redirect=3Dhttp://www.myclimate.org" target=3D_blank>www.myclimate.org</A>=
, or did you just think it was a hoax? </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> I'm using it regularly when I fly (whic=
h I avoid whenever I can take a train</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> around Europe), and so is our company f=
or its car. I have followed this</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> initiative from its beginning. It's now=
 5 years old and has become a serious</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> and ethical business.</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Regards - Catherine</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Catherine Pfaehler Senn</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> lic.oec.HSG</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Open Space Begleitung</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Kellersriedweg 8</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> CH - 2503 Biel</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> +41-(0)32 - 365 68 41</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> <A href=3D"javascript:top.opencompose('=
c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch','','','')">c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch</A></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----</SP=
AN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Von: Jon Harvey [<A href=3D"javascript:=
top.opencompose('<a href=3D" javascript:top.opencompose(?only.connect at virgi=
n.net?,??,??,??)?>only.connect at virgin.net</A>','','','')"><A href=3D"jav=
ascript:top.opencompose('only.connect at virgin.net','','','')">only.connect at v=
irgin.net</A></A>] </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. April 2007 23:3=
4</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> An: <A href=3D"javascript:top.opencompo=
se('c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch','','','')">c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch</A></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Cc: <A href=3D"javascript:top.opencompo=
se('OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU','','','')">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.E=
DU</A></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Betreff: Re: climate-neutral flights an=
d drives!</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Hi all</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> I would also 'recommend' a website call=
ed:</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> <A href=3D"http://mail.uk2.net/parse.pl=
?redirect=3Dhttp://www.cheatneutral.com" target=3D_blank>www.cheatneutral.c=
om</A></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> ...where people who are committing adul=
tery can have their behaviour </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> offset by someone else who is committed=
 to a single life or fidelity...</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> I have also resolved to drink only flat=
 beers from now on - as I think </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> that gassy beer can only be adding to g=
reenhouse gases...</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Happy space to everyone!</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Jon</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Oxford</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> Catherine Pfaehler wrote:</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Harrison and everybody - wishing yo=
u well...</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Did you know that on <A href=3D"htt=
p://mail.uk2.net/parse.pl?redirect=3Dhttp://www.myclimate.org" target=3D_bl=
ank>www.myclimate.org</A> you can buy climate tickets along</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> with your airline tickets to CO2-ne=
utralize your flights, and even your</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> car</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> drives? A great initiative by swiss=
 students which is doing a wonderful</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> job</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> in investing the money they make in=
 neutralizing projects! You enter your</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> points of departure and arrival and=
 the system calculates how many tons of</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> CO2 you emit by sitting in that pla=
ne. Then it tells you how much a</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> climate</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> ticket costs. You buy it with your =
credit card. Absolutely affordable!</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Love, Catherine</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Catherine Pfaehler Senn</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> lic.oec.HSG</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Open Space Begleitung</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Kellersriedweg 8</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> CH - 2503 Biel</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> +41-(0)32 - 365 68 41</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> <A href=3D"javascript:top.opencompo=
se('c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch','','','')">c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch</A></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----=
</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Von: Harrison Owen [<A href=3D"java=
script:top.opencompose('<a href=3D" javascript:top.opencompose(?hhowen at veri=
zon.net?,??,??,??)?>hhowen at verizon.net</A>','','','')"><A href=3D"javasc=
ript:top.opencompose('hhowen at verizon.net','','','')">hhowen at verizon.net</A>=
</A>] </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. April 2007 =
01:50</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Betreff: For My Friends in Kiev</SP=
AN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Just so you know - I think what you=
 are doing is wonderful, and I hope</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> that</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> everybody who can - will come. For =
myself - I would be there except for a</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Sciatic Nerve that reminds me that =
I am not as young as I used to be, and</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> further -- that multiple hours on p=
lanes is not a good thing at this</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> point.</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> I was amazed (depressed) to find th=
at on United Airlines alone I had</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> clocked</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> =BE of a million miles. Just think =
of the tons of CO2 (greenhouse gas) I</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> have</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">> </SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> contributed!!! Anyhow, I have to st=
ick closer to home at the moment, and I</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> know you will have a grand time!</S=
PAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Harrison</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Harrison Owen</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> 7808 River Falls Drive</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Potomac, Maryland 20854</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Phone 301-365-2093</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Skype hhowen</SPAN><BR>
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #ff0000">>> Open Space Training <A href=3D"http=
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