FW: [OSLIST] whatever happens...
Harrison Owen
hhowen at verizon.net
Tue Apr 24 07:30:32 PDT 2007
From: Deborah Hartmann [mailto:deborah at hartmann.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:23 AM
To: hhowen at verizon.net
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] whatever happens...
> Life, of course, is filled with throwaways. Some stick around and
others depart.
The wording of this makes me think of the (apocryphal?) story of the
invention of Post-Its - a failed adhesives experiment at 3M, so I've
heard. A throw-away. But it fit a need... and has changed how we work!
It literally "stuck around" :-)
Harrison Owen wrote:
>
> It is interesting (funny, odd, strange) how words, once casually
> spoken, take on a life of their own, and somehow or another possess a
> depth of meaning that was totally invisible in the moment of speaking.
> The phrase, "Whatever happens is the only thing that could have," was
> just a throwaway, but it seemed to fit.
>
> I suppose it would be nice if I could tell you that each of the
> Principles, along with the Law of Two Feet, were the direct result of
> profound and careful thought. Maybe it would be more "socially
> (academically) acceptable if their origin were rooted in an extensive
> consideration of life in all of its aspects, with due deference given
> to the age old polarities of freedom and determinism, self and world,
> being and non-being, just to name a few. Then I could announce that
> after many years of deep meditation on the mountain top I have come to
> pronounce the core understandings - the essential principles and the
> one law. Nice, but total fabrication! The genesis, in fact was quite
> different. It just seemed to be the right thing in the moment.
>
> Life, of course, is filled with throwaways. Some stick around and
> others depart. What is the difference? I think the difference is the
> way in which a phrase (or even one word) assumes a life of its own in
> a community. There never was an "authorized text" - and for sure The
> Community (whatever that was/is) never sat down in formal process to
> determine the correct words. Rather like pebbles in a brook worn by
> the passage of waters, some words are polished and smoothed to reveal
> a deeper glow, and some are shattered to become sand and mud - all
> taking place as the currents of community usage pass on by.
>
> I think it is probably important to note that the Principles and The
> law were never prescriptive - as in telling people what they should
> do. They are in fact descriptive - simply noting what will take place
> anyhow. Even if we have been taught, trained, coerced, believe the
> opposite - the principles and the law seems to be true. And for that
> reason alone they are always troubling. They seem wrong, counter
> intuitive, and definitely not according to our plans - but that is the
> way it is. Or so it has seemed for 20 years.
>
> I can remember times when there was intense discussion about the 1^st
> Principle (Whoever comes is the right people). People would say - Does
> that mean that those who don't come are the wrong people? Are they
> somehow bad, evil, and monstrous? Not at all! But the fact of the
> matter is that they didn't care to come. No judgment made concerning
> their moral status - just a simple statement of fact. They didn't care
> to come. And what makes the people present the "right people?" Another
> statement of fact - They did care to come.
>
> So where does that leave us? I guess the conversation continues, and
> the waters in the brook continue to do their work. Actually I really
> like, "Whatever happens is the only thing that did." Makes me smile
> too! And maybe I will give it a try and see how it passes over my
> lips. But then again, I rather like the old one. Perhaps I am getting
> older and set in my ways (all true) - but somehow the "could have" has
> a useful jarring quality. Upon first hearing it surely sounds like
> pure determinism - we are all locked in a prefigured universe which is
> just rolling over us. But there is also a smile there too. And beneath
> the smile is a recognition that given the constraints and forces of
> the instant what happened was the only possible result. Given
> different forces and constraints the results would be totally
> different - but all that is just hypothetical. We could just sit here
> and say ain't it awful, our freedom is denied, the dice have been
> thrown. OR - we could pay very close attention to the present moment
> and discover that even though it isn't what we expected, planned on,
> or hoped for - there are in fact some incredible, rich opportunities
> present which have never existed previously. So rather than
> constraining our freedom, it is expanded in ways and directions we had
> never even dreamed about. I like that one.
>
> Harrison
>
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> *From:* OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] *On Behalf Of
> *John Engle
> *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2007 9:22 PM
> *To:* OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> *Subject:* whatever happens...
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> Hi fellow listers.
>
> I know that some have been through this hundreds of times but I'm
> wanting to get the most recent reflections on the principle:
>
> Whatever happens is the only thing that could've.
>
> My colleagues in Haiti and I continue to have smart people from a
> variety of cultures let us know that this principle doesn't sit well
> with them.
>
> It communicates fatalism to some instead of encouraging
> responsibility. While i'm totally comfortable with the principle, if
> enough people tell me that it communicates something to them that is
> different than what i'm trying to communicate, there's a problem.
>
> For me, what's worse is that often times people remember it as: "What
> happens is that which is supposed to happen" or "There's a reason for
> everything that happens." This can have us sounding like Christian
> fundamentalist.
>
> We've been experimenting in Haitian Creole and in English with this:
>
> What Happens is what happens - learn and move forward.
>
> Here's an example of a text that would explain this principle:
>
> This principle helps us to not lament over should'ves, to not wallow
> in regrets. We're all responsible for how we use our time and space
> together during this meeting. Let's assume that responsibility and be
> prepared to accept what happens and to continually strive to learn and
> to keep moving forward.
>
> i covet your thoughts.
>
> John
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