The Da Vinci Connection -- Open Space and the Feminine

Thu May 25 07:05:06 PDT 2006

As some of my favorite books are being offered for reading I would like 
to add another.  Layne Remonds's When The Woman Were Drummers has some 
interesting insights about the change in balance.  According to Redmond 
there was also a corresponding change in the relationship to the drum's 
purpose and who played it.  There are many vase pictures of woman  
holding round disk objects.  Before woman had access to the acadamy most 
male archeologists discribed those disks as cakes.  Gimbutus says they 
are drums.  Redmond is a frame drummer herself and I think, quite a 
scholar on the history of the frame drum.  I seem to remember some 
issues between Moses and his sister Miriam before leaving Eygpt.  I am 
no Old Testament scholar but seem to remember that Miriam was a drummer 
and there were some power struggles between her and Moses.  I think it 
was the people that insisted Miriam be included.  That would at least 
date this struggle in the balance between the masculine and feminine to 
that time.
Pat Black

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"Fibonacci numbers" -- talk about esoterica! And once again we are back to
The Da Vinci Code. 

Harrison

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Dear All,

Viv has often asked me why it is that every meeting that she goes to
facilitate has either an odd or a prime number of people in it, making it
almost impossible for her to divvy up her group.

Well, I reckon we have Phi to thank for that. *grumble* *self-organisation*
*grumble* *grumble*

Or maybe I should say, the Fibonacci numbers.... See a simple way of
deriving Phi is first to take the Fibonacci number sequence: 

0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89

Then, if you take each Fibonacci number and divide it by the one before you
will eventually converge onto Phi.

I dunno about you, but is this something we might be able to generalize
across practictioners? :)

Cheers,
Andrew

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Wendy Wrote: If Phi is as ubiquitous in Nature as Brown suggests, it is
perhaps one of the hallmarks of self-organization?  I was wondering if we
see any instances of Phi in Open Space?  Any math fans out there interested
in taking a look for it? I'm going to start :-)

Wendy --good luck. And since I am one of those mathematically challenged
individuals, I leave it all to you and others.

H.

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Interesting that this thread has started.  There is something else that the
Da Vinci Code brought forward for me--the number Phi (
http://goldennumber.net/ ).

If Phi is as ubiquitous in Nature as Brown suggests, it is perhaps one of
the hallmarks of self-organization?  I was wondering if we see any instances
of Phi in Open Space?  Any math fans out there interested in taking a look
for it? I'm going to start :-)

Cheers,
Wendy 

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