Imams and Rabbis --Gender/Countries / Participants
Funda Oral
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Fri Mar 31 05:44:29 PST 2006
some further information
----- Original Message -----
From: Mirza Yawar Baig
To: Funda Oral
Cc: Harrison Owen
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Imams and Rabbis --Gender/Countries / Participants
I want to respond to the comment below, by Tree Fitzpatrick "I suppose there is no such thing as a female Imaam"......that is true only in as much as leading the congregational prayer is concerned. There are plenty of women scholars, who teach, speak in public, are followed (including by men) and are hugely respected (Farhat Hashmi in Pakistan is one such) by all Muslims. Any number of them could have been invited and would have come. As I said, most of the Muslim world does not seem to have been there (none from India - 300 million Muslims - Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Afghanistan, Iraq to name some). Also obviously not enough Muslim women.
I am myself an Imaam and an international speaker on Islam and so can say the above with authority. Please forward this to Tree with my compliments.
I am not on the OS List as it is too busy and takes too much time, but as an OS practitioner and the only one registered on the Worldwide List from this region (India) I will be happy to answer any questions.
Yawar
www.yawarbaig.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Funda Oral
To: Mirza Yawar Baig
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:14 PM
Subject: Fw: Imams and Rabbis --Gender/Countries / Participants
and turkey with 5 participants, michael confirmed to me and the list later
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From: "Michael M Pannwitz" <mmpanne at boscop.de>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Imams and Rabbis --Gender/Countries / Participants
> Dear Tree,
> ho gave you the info on the gender distribution.
> Pretty clear, that one.
>
> On other "distribution",
> details gleaned from the contact list:
> There were 39 countries present.
> With one participant each from Quatar, Poland, Bosnia, Tanzania, Vatikan,
> Ivory Coast, Norway, Singapore, Ukraine, Peru, Mali, Senegal, Denmark,
> Estonia and Tadjikistan
> With two participants each from Lebanon, Venezuela, Austria, Iran, Canada,
> Indonesia
> With three participants each from Germany, Tunisia, Egypt,Kenya, Nigeria
> With four: Jordan,
> With five: Netherlands
> With more than five: Russia (8), Belgium (8), Italy (9)
> With more than 10: Marocco(10),Switzerland (11), Spain (15), UK (17),
> Palestine (20)
> With plenty: USA (40),France (53) and Israel (65).
>
> That counts up to about 300 of which about 140 were Imams and Rabbis.
> An amazing crowd and I wouldnt be surprised about an even larger number of
> Imams and Rabbis tje next time around with a much larger international mix
> yet.
>
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
>
> Tree Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> Thanks, Harrison, for your wonderful report. And thanks to HO, Michael
>> and his colleagues for doing this amazing work in the world. I know, I
>> know, the rabbis and imans also did this wonderful work so thanks for all
>> of them as well.
>>
>> I hope my above paragraph conveyed my sincere, warm, enthusiasm and
>> gratitude. Now I have a question. I do not ask this question to
>> collapse the field or to diminish the great, wonderful work but I am
>> sitting here with a curiosity. What was the gender distribution among
>> the rabbis and imans? I guess there is no such thing as a female iman?
>> So I am wondering if all the rabbis were guys? By voicing my curiosity,
>> I do not wish to diminish the great achievements of this work. Neither
>> do I mean to imply that there 'should' have been female rabbis present.
>> I am just wondering so I'm just asking, unattached to the answer.
>>
>> On 3/26/06, *Florian Fischer* <ff at begleitung-im-wandel.com
>> <mailto:ff at begleitung-im-wandel.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Am 26.03.2006 13:00 Uhr schrieb "Harrison Owen" unter <
>> hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>>:
>>
>> >..... and we all know what we think of Americans! Especially
>> Americans
>> > who wore strange hats! (smile)
>> >
>> >....... Michael, the Crew, and I
>> > felt that since a Stammtisch had yet to be held in Seville, there
>> was no
>> > time like the present. A marvelous, small, neighborhood gathering
>> place
>> > presented itself, well supplied with good drink and outstanding
>> Tabas (sp?).
>>
>> >.....As I turned to walk on the plane, I heard the Imam say loudly
>> > to his fellows - "That is a great man." Truly I felt embarrassed,
>> but also
>> > very good. And I think we did some good.>
>> > So what have we learned?
>> >
>> > Doubtless the lessons will continue to surface, but a major one
>> for me
>> > might be: REALLY Be Prepared to Be Surprised! .
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, great man with the strange hat
>> you alternative but native american
>> your story tells again
>> that really acting in open space
>> is a hard job
>> but sometimes OST is helpfull.
>>
>> by the way
>> the wonderfull andalusian practice
>> to add small food to the drink
>> is called
>> la TAPA, las TAPAS --
>> Vamos a tapar
>> which is »to cover« the drink.
>>
>> thanks a lot for your report.
>>
>> florian
>>
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