The End of Quiet Time
Funda Oral
fundaoral at ttnet.net.tr
Thu Mar 9 03:11:31 PST 2006
Every movement, from deepest inner to broadest social, is practice
that matters, or so it seems to me just now.
Michael
it seems to me so too,
Funda
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> Here's another thought, not to oversimplify or otherwise diminish the
> consequences of what is coming, but to offer a slightly different
> view.
>
> What if these changes made in the environment were already too big to
> stop? What makes us think that we could coordinate control of
> planetary weather in the first place? What if rather than stopping
> the changes, we learned to *move* better? What if the buildings we
> needed were not "green", but mobile, for instance? And work, what if
> it was more mobile? But, of course, work already is getting more
> mobile!
>
> Chris suggests 'NOT being part of the problem.' This in itself is a
> huge piece of work, possibly impossible. The systems we have are the
> problem and we're inescapable part of most of those. Why not just
> write off the losses of this real estate and move on? Because we all
> hold currencies and other assets, and buy food and insurance and heat,
> in markets that would go nuts if we did this all at once. The good
> news, if there is such a thing, is that we don't have to do it all at
> once. I would say that I'm looking for ways to be part of new ways of
> living, and that new life seems to be all kinds of 'movement'.
>
> The story Chris quotes in my weblog is amazing to me. It shows me
> that Life can go on. Life keeps moving. This is what I try to
> practice... movement. Flexible, lively, smart but porous, loosely
> formed and constantly informed boundaries and bodies and plans. And I
> try to do this as visibly as I can, as invitation, teaching, and
> contribution. I think most of us are doing this on some level, and
> this is what I think we might look for all kinds of large and small
> ways to do more of. Make more moves, tell more stories, invite more
> friends, support more connections.
>
> Every movement, from deepest inner to broadest social, is practice
> that matters, or so it seems to me just now.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/7/06, Chris Corrigan <chris at chriscorrigan.com> wrote:
>> Harrison:
>>
>> Even in the vast Open Spaces within which we work, there is really a tiny
>> closed space upon which we work. The earth is a closed system, for the
>> most
>> part, and no amount of useful material or help from outside is
>> forthcoming
>> to save us from ourselves.
>>
>> And so, the answers as always, are to open more space within, because
>> unless
>> we seek some radical transformation in our ways of doing things,
>> scenarios
>> like this may well come to pass. And if they do...
>>
>> Some of us, including some of us here on the list like Ralph Copleman,
>> Peggy
>> Holman and John Engle, have been talking about seeing Open Space and
>> other
>> dialogue and deliberation processes as essential tools for dealing with
>> massive crises brought about by climate change or catastrophes. I have
>> personally spoken with David Korten, the author of a several pieces on "
>> The
>> Perfect Economic Storm" (collapse of the US$, climate change and peak oil
>> happening at the same time) and he's a big supporter of much much deeper
>> engagement of people in local communities in first preventing these kinds
>> of
>> scenarios, and later on, dealing with them well. I've written more about
>> this at my weblog.
>>
>> I think, as Katrina and the Asian tsunami has taught us, dealing with
>> large
>> scale and sudden change demands wise action. In Sri Lanka, a group
>> called
>> Sarvodaya, who make community empowerment their spiritual practice, were
>> first on the ground with support and logistics after the tsunami because
>> they make a practice of doing this kind of work. Michael Herman's recent
>> posting on his weblog points to a group of Nepalese leaders who are doing
>> the same in the face of a civil war.
>>
>> The world has much need of those who make engagement, collaboration,
>> empowerment and facilitation a regular practice. When the skills are
>> really
>> needed, there will be no time to learn them.
>>
>> We could certainly raise the alarm, but my inclination is to work in two
>> areas on activity: try my best NOT to be a part of the problem, and keep
>> myself prepared for the problems that may find us nonetheless.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --
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>From Thu Mar 9 07:07:50 2006
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:07:50 -0800
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From: Lisa Heft <lisaheft at openingspace.net>
Subject: Re: co-located open space events
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Hello, all -
Ted wrote:
<What about two OS events, co-located? I've got a brainstorm cooking
here, with the omidyar.net members conference in July and the first
Chicago Planetwork conference. Two facilitators. Two opening
circles. Two agenda walls. One hotel.
The alternative, of course, is to try to craft a single invitation
that serves both groups. Maybe that's still possible.>
...and Les wrote:
< The most exciting developments I see on the horizon are
happening as a result of cross-platform communication between
disciplines. For example what happens when we overlay the most recent
advancements in biology with computer science or mechanical systems? Do
we see a new prosthesis? Exoskeletal systems? Bio-robotic systems
capable of amazing things?>
...and that is exactly why I would not hold two Open Spaces, but one. Sure,
the core/host team and I may struggle with finding the right key question
that stimulates and serves both groups - and sure, the core/host team may
need to send out differently-crafted messages / announcements to speak to
different kind of groups.
But it is exactly the diversity that will fuel these great exciting ideas
and the method that will deliver cross-platform communication between
disciplines.
...if I understand correctly from your short description, Ted...
Lisa
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>From Thu Mar 9 10:08:50 2006
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 10:08:50 -0500
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From: Diane Brandon [mailto:diane.brandon at comcast.net]
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Subject: Re: [OSLIST] co-located open space events
We did a world cafe short event where we had about 12 topics (community
setting); people talked at topic tables, then shifted after 20 minutes
to a new topic and shared the various topic highlights from the first
topics, then shifted again, same.... so there were many combinations of
the topics. (You can see the topics at www.keysregion.org and the
photos of the event at http://www.keysregion.org/KEYSForumPhotos05.htm
)
Maybe some WC dance between the OSs?
or one day OS on the topics separate, and then second day with all the
topics from both posted, with new ones, and people can cross borders at
that point?
Diane
On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:38 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:
> From: Les Burleson [mailto:lburleson at nc.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:14 AM
> To: hhowen at verizon.net
> Subject: RE: co-located open space events
>
> There might be something to this idea of two open spaces being held at
> the same time. The most exciting developments I see on the horizon are
> happening as a result of cross-platform communication between
> disciplines. For example what happens when we overlay the most recent
> advancements in biology with computer science or mechanical systems?
> Do
> we see a new prosthesis? Exoskeletal systems? Bio-robotic systems
> capable of amazing things? Just a thought...
>
> Looking forward,
>
> Les Burleson
>
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> Harrison Owen
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:53 AM
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> Subject: Re: co-located open space events
>
> Anything is possible, but my experience is that two Open Spaces
> together
> seems to bleed energy from both. I suppose that if the focus of each
> was
> VERY different that would not be the case -- but it would have to be
> very
> different. Since it is a single organization/group of people, I am not
> clear
> how different that could be.
>
> Harrison
>
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> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ted
> Ernst
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:46 AM
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> Subject: co-located open space events
>
> Traditional conferences somtimes co-locate because of their
> overlapping communities or for various other reasons. Sometimes an OS
> event is co-located with a traditional event, maybe calling them
> tracks or whatever.
>
> What about two OS events, co-located? I've got a brainstorm cooking
> here, with the omidyar.net members conference in July and the first
> Chicago Planetwork conference. Two facilitators. Two opening
> circles. Two agenda walls. One hotel.
>
> The alternative, of course, is to try to craft a single invitation
> that serves both groups. Maybe that's still possible.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
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>From Thu Mar 9 10:20:05 2006
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I would certainly agree that cross disciplinary activity is essential. And
the reason is quite simple. Life does not come in "disciplines" -- no matter
what the heads of academic departments might think or hope. The university
structure is at best an arbitrary abstraction from life. On a good day it
represents a map of the territory. But it is always arbitrary, and it is
always a map -- never to be confused with the territory. Put a little
differently, my life comes in a package labeled "Harrison" which includes
and transcends physics, chemistry, biology, psychology -- and maybe even
robotics? But it is always Harrison.
Anyhow, it seems to me that the obvious need for cross-disciplinary efforts
argue for a SINGLE Open Space and not multiples. Doing multiple Open Spaces
simply confirms and compounds the inherent liability of the several academic
disciplines. And besides, it is an awful lot more work. As I have said to
the point of nausea -- always think of one more thing not to do. Works
better and feels better too.
Harrison
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Owen
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From: Les Burleson [mailto:lburleson at nc.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:14 AM
To: hhowen at verizon.net
Subject: RE: co-located open space events
There might be something to this idea of two open spaces being held at
the same time. The most exciting developments I see on the horizon are
happening as a result of cross-platform communication between
disciplines. For example what happens when we overlay the most recent
advancements in biology with computer science or mechanical systems? Do
we see a new prosthesis? Exoskeletal systems? Bio-robotic systems
capable of amazing things? Just a thought...
Looking forward,
Les Burleson
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Harrison Owen
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:53 AM
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Subject: Re: co-located open space events
Anything is possible, but my experience is that two Open Spaces together
seems to bleed energy from both. I suppose that if the focus of each was
VERY different that would not be the case -- but it would have to be
very
different. Since it is a single organization/group of people, I am not
clear
how different that could be.
Harrison
Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Drive
Potomac, Maryland 20854
Phone 301-365-2093
Skype hhowen
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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ted
Ernst
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:46 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: co-located open space events
Traditional conferences somtimes co-locate because of their
overlapping communities or for various other reasons. Sometimes an OS
event is co-located with a traditional event, maybe calling them
tracks or whatever.
What about two OS events, co-located? I've got a brainstorm cooking
here, with the omidyar.net members conference in July and the first
Chicago Planetwork conference. Two facilitators. Two opening
circles. Two agenda walls. One hotel.
The alternative, of course, is to try to craft a single invitation
that serves both groups. Maybe that's still possible.
Thoughts?
--
Humanize the Earth! http://tedernst.com
Open more space! http://www.openspaceworld.org
Chicago event July 14-16: http://moreandmore.us/
skype: TedErnst
google talk/jabber: tedernst at gmail.com
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