What the (Bleep)

Patricia Haines levelgreen at kaxy.com
Wed Mar 15 04:15:30 PST 2006


the film is actually called "What the (Bleep) Do We Know" - except that it uses some Greek letters
in the title. It's inspiring. If you're familar with Landmark Education, you'll recognize some of
the key concepts behind the emphasis on how we create our own possibilities in life through our
capacity to make choices. What grabbed me was the evidence from neurobiology for what folks who
meditate, from all world faith traditions, have been asserting for eons. Glad you asked!

----- Original Message -----
From: Les Burleson <lburleson at nc.rr.com>
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Sent:         Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:55:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Self-evolution

> This looks very interesting.  Wonder if you could be more specific as to
> title?  If this is something you feel unseemly to publish here please
> email me directly at:  lburleson at nc.rr.com.  Thanks!
> 
> Looking forward,
>  
> Les Burleson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Patricia Haines
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:11 AM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: Self-evolution
> 
> Michael et al: if you haven't already seen it, check out the video or
> DVD of "What the (Bleep)Do We
> Know?" - a conversation, loosely disguised as a story, with quantum
> physicists and neurobiologists
> about the nature of 'reality' and our relationship to it as creators -
> makes a great gift for anyone
> exploring the edges of things!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Sent:         Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:33:16 -0600
> Subject: Re: Self-evolution
> 
> > Harrison, et al...
> > 
> > There is a book out since 1999 called "The User Illusion: Cutting
> > Consciousness Down to Size" (by Tor Norreetranders) that suggests that
> > the next 'grand unification' is not going to simply marry gravity to
> > the other three forces described by modern physics, but will go even
> > further, marrying physics to everyday life, consciousness, and
> > meaning.
> > 
> > I'm only a fourth of the way into this, but see much in it that seems
> > relevant to the self-organizing, open space story.  It seems that a
> > big piece of evolution is forgetting details.  When we measure
> > temperature, for instance, we ignore the speed, position and all the
> > variance in individual molecules.  When we total up our grocery
> > purchase, we note only the amount on the bill and leave with "a
> > bagful" rather than individual items.  When one of Darwin's successes
> > is 'naturally selected', nature also forgets or ignores or lets go of
> > a pile of other options.  And when we write an invitation, we often
> > ignore a lot of the details, forget them, so that we can move forward
> > with issues and opps for...  whatever.  Forgetting, letting go,
> > looking ahead, focusing in... it all helps open new space.
> > 
> > The stuff in this book, refs to Santa Fe Institute conferences and
> > such, might provide good fodder for this self-org story you're
> > spinning, Harrison.  It might provide other science-minded folks here
> > with interesting reading.
> > 
> > I suppose the biology of self-org might be closer to human systems,
> > but I find the leap from physics to openspace more interesting.  Small
> > wonder, or a good sign, that I'm marrying a former particle physicist!
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 3/12/06, Ralph Copleman <rcopleman at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > On 3/12/06 2:00 AM, "OSLIST automatic digest system"
> > > <LISTSERV at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Chaos, we are learning, is the rich seed =
> > > > bed of emergent order.  Strange new world.
> > >
> > > Yeah, all 13.7 billion years of recent events.
> > >
> > > Harrison, you're re-examining the theory of evolution.  The process
> we call
> > > "self-organization" may be, after all, what Darwin labeled "Natural
> > > Selection".  (He never used the phrase "survival of the fittest", by
> the
> > > way.)
> > >
> > > If your new book emerges as a re-presentation of evolution for the
> world of
> > > human systems, it will be a very, very useful contribution.  If we
> can get
> > > even a few such systems thinking/operating in harmony with the
> universe's
> > > ancient (and highly effective) underlying dynamics, we'll have taken
> a big
> > > step toward saving life on Earth.
> > >
> > > Lead on, my friend.
> > >
> > > Ralph
> > >
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