OSLIST Digest - 8 Jun 2006 to 9 Jun 2006 (#2006-152)

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Sat Jun 10 09:12:36 PDT 2006


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> There are 4 messages totalling 380 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
> 
> 1. OSonOS greetings from Almaty (Kazakhstan) (2)
> 2. Dealing with New Entrants to OS sessions (2)
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> Date:    Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:30:16 +0400
> From:    Raffi Aftandelian <raffi at bk.ru>
> Subject: OSonOS greetings from Almaty (Kazakhstan)
> 
> (from Jamila Asanova, Intertraining member, at Appreciative Inquiry Learning
> Workshop June 7-9, Moscow; Director of Civil Society Development Assocation)
> 
> Dear partners, colleagues,
> 
> I have been working with OST from 2000 when Intertraining organized an OST
> learning workshop together colleagues from the Newly Independent States. We
> have three days of learning in Open Space led by Jo Toepfer and Michael
> Pannewitz.
> 
> Inspired by this approach, I have used and continue to use os in personnel
> management, my training and coaching courses, conferences, developing
> partnerships.
> 
> Two years ago I encountered AI, which also allows the application of os and is
> quite close in meaning and relation to os.
> 
> For me os is not so much an approach, rather a life attitude, how I choose to,
> rather, engage with the whirled.
> 
> I am looking forward to hopefully participating in OSonOS XIV in Moscow and
> discuss os within os and to make new friends and engage with new possibilities
> and to forget myself in the remembering of the process.
> 
> All the best,
> Jamila Asanova
> 
> jamila at cpart.kz
> www.argonet.org
> 
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> Date:    Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:57:08 +0200
> From:    Michael M Pannwitz <mmpanne at boscop.de>
> Subject: Re: OSonOS greetings from Almaty (Kazakhstan)
> 
> Dear Raffi,
> it was at the Intertraining event back in 2000 I fully fell in love with
> buffets created by participants with morsels brought from their homes
> and gardens and cellars...here people came from I dont know how many
> time zones and different climates and countries (all former Soviet
> Union)so that we had food from the whole year there...and lots of
> homebrewed heavy stuff...
> It was a wonderful expression of diversity in selforganisation,
> lets have a splendid buffet at the OSonOS in Moscow
> greetings from Berlin
> mmp
> 
> Raffi Aftandelian wrote:
>> (from Jamila Asanova, Intertraining member, at Appreciative Inquiry Learning
>> Workshop June 7-9, Moscow; Director of Civil Society Development Assocation)
>> 
>> Dear partners, colleagues,
>> 
>> I have been working with OST from 2000 when Intertraining organized an OST
>> learning workshop together colleagues from the Newly Independent States. We
>> have three days of learning in Open Space led by Jo Toepfer and Michael
>> Pannewitz.
>> 
>> Inspired by this approach, I have used and continue to use os in personnel
>> management, my training and coaching courses, conferences, developing
>> partnerships.
>> 
>> Two years ago I encountered AI, which also allows the application of os and
>> is quite close in meaning and relation to os.
>> 
>> For me os is not so much an approach, rather a life attitude, how I choose
>> to, rather, engage with the whirled.
>> 
>> I am looking forward to hopefully participating in OSonOS XIV in Moscow and
>> discuss os within os and to make new friends and engage with new
>> possibilities and to forget myself in the remembering of the process.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Jamila Asanova
>> 
>> jamila at cpart.kz
>> www.argonet.org
>> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Date:    Fri, 9 Jun 2006 07:16:46 -0600
> From:    Stuart Worsley <sworsley at SNVWORLD.ORG>
> Subject: Dealing with New Entrants to OS sessions
> 
> New Arrivals into OS sessions.
> 
> Yesterday, I completed a two day OS session with the council, executive=20=
> 
> and public stakeholders of the city of Eldoret in Kenya. We took the firs=
> t=20
> day so seek and document the divergant views, and on the second day=20
> produced convergance and specific action plans. The group was a collectio=
> n=20
> of hitherto conflicting parties, and this became the first time that they=
> =20
> could sit together and dialogue. The event was highly energised and all=20=
> 
> participated fully.=20
> 
> However, at the end of the first day, to close, I asked participants to=20=
> 
> throw a light ball to one another, and as they received it, to reflect on=
> e=20
> thing that they had learned. A couple of people stated that although they=
> =20
> had really enjoyed the sessions, they felt aggrieved that others of their=
> =20
> colleagues had collected council perdiem to attend, and had not shown up.=
> =20
> Of course I reminded them of the principles - whoever comes are the right=
> =20
> people.
> 
> Next morning, we started with convergance. Reports were given out and an=20=
> 
> hour allowed for reflection and voting. We used stickies to indicate vote=
> s=20
> on each issue. After we started, 5 new people arrived, grabbed a report=20=
> 
> found some stickies and started to vote with the group. These were the=20=
> 
> counsellors that were the subject of complaint the evening before. When=20=
> =20
> the circle was reformed, in order to hold the space, I decided to welcome=
> =20
> them in, and ask them to give their names and their expectations in=20
> attending - as all had done yesterday. They stood up, and gave names and=20=
> 
> sat down. From within the group, one vocal individual called out that the=
> y=20
> should give their expectations too, in light of the fact that they had no=
> t=20
> arrived until now. The new arrivals began to react demanding why they wer=
> e=20
> being singled out for attention. Some of the group started to defend them=
> =20
> saying that others were being too harsh, and the spirit of the circle=20
> quickly dissipated into partisan hostility.
> 
> At this point, I decided to intervene by stating that we only wished to=20=
> 
> welcome them in, and that we should move on to discuss the next stage of=20=
> 
> convergance. I explained the next steps to a restless group, and suggeste=
> d=20
> that we all take some coffee.=20
> 
> After reconvening to add up votes and form small groups on priority=20
> issues, things settled, and we returned to productive energised attention=
> =20
> for the remainder. Some of the new arrivals did settle in, while others=20=
> 
> remained aloof, and even tried to leave the procedings, only to return=20=
> 
> later.
> 
> I would appreciate anyone's reflections on this specifically with respect=
> =20
> to a) handling new arrivals to an OS session, and b) what experience is=20=
> 
> there in managing the balance between holding space, and letting the grou=
> p=20
> degenerate into divisions.
> 
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> Date:    Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:14:21 -0700
> From:    Chris Corrigan <chris at chriscorrigan.com>
> Subject: Re: Dealing with New Entrants to OS sessions
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> Hi there:
> 
> It sounds to me that the issue was deeper than coming late.  If there had
> been speculation about the motives of the five newcomers taking money and
> not showing, it seems that the conversation needs to be deeper than simply
> stating expectations.
> 
> Often, when there is some unresolved issue in front of the group (we
> sometimes call this the "dead moose") it helps to simply allow it to come up
> in a circle process, using a talking piece.  I have found it especially
> important, in terms of "holding space" to not take on the role of picking
> and choosing parts of the agenda, or inviting specific people to speak.
> Your five latecomers might well be right...they were singled out.  The
> question is, what do we do with people who were coming to circle with
> different expectations, under different circumstances?  What does this say
> about the kind of circle we are?  How should we together deal with these
> kinds of issues?  Opening space then using a talking piece invites people to
> take responsibility for the questions, and lessens their reliance on me (and
> the subsequent detachment of responsibility) as the facilitator.
> 
> A talking piece is a marvelous and effective way to handle these kinds of
> conversations.  It allows the time and spaciousness to keep a group opened
> beyond partisan bickering, and it makes for a very rich group conversation.
> I remember several, including the one that happened this year at OSonOS in
> Halifax where we were deciding where OSonOS 2006 should be.  I was, and
> still am, in awe of the conversation that took place between 120 people that
> afternoon, all in a circle, all using a talking piece and all in the spirit
> of OS.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 6/9/06, Stuart Worsley <sworsley at snvworld.org> wrote:
>> 
>> New Arrivals into OS sessions.
>> 
>> Yesterday, I completed a two day OS session with the council, executive
>> and public stakeholders of the city of Eldoret in Kenya. We took the first
>> day so seek and document the divergant views, and on the second day
>> produced convergance and specific action plans. The group was a collection
>> of hitherto conflicting parties, and this became the first time that they
>> could sit together and dialogue. The event was highly energised and all
>> participated fully.
>> 
>> However, at the end of the first day, to close, I asked participants to
>> throw a light ball to one another, and as they received it, to reflect one
>> thing that they had learned. A couple of people stated that although they
>> had really enjoyed the sessions, they felt aggrieved that others of their
>> colleagues had collected council perdiem to attend, and had not shown up.
>> Of course I reminded them of the principles - whoever comes are the right
>> people.
>> 
>> Next morning, we started with convergance. Reports were given out and an
>> hour allowed for reflection and voting. We used stickies to indicate votes
>> on each issue. After we started, 5 new people arrived, grabbed a report
>> found some stickies and started to vote with the group. These were the
>> counsellors that were the subject of complaint the evening before. When
>> the circle was reformed, in order to hold the space, I decided to welcome
>> them in, and ask them to give their names and their expectations in
>> attending - as all had done yesterday. They stood up, and gave names and
>> sat down. From within the group, one vocal individual called out that they
>> should give their expectations too, in light of the fact that they had not
>> arrived until now. The new arrivals began to react demanding why they were
>> being singled out for attention. Some of the group started to defend them
>> saying that others were being too harsh, and the spirit of the circle
>> quickly dissipated into partisan hostility.
>> 
>> At this point, I decided to intervene by stating that we only wished to
>> welcome them in, and that we should move on to discuss the next stage of
>> convergance. I explained the next steps to a restless group, and suggested
>> that we all take some coffee.
>> 
>> After reconvening to add up votes and form small groups on priority
>> issues, things settled, and we returned to productive energised attention
>> for the remainder. Some of the new arrivals did settle in, while others
>> remained aloof, and even tried to leave the procedings, only to return
>> later.
>> 
>> I would appreciate anyone's reflections on this specifically with respect
>> to a) handling new arrivals to an OS session, and b) what experience is
>> there in managing the balance between holding space, and letting the group
>> degenerate into divisions.
>> 
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> Hi there:<br><br>It sounds to me that the issue was deeper than coming
> late.  If there had been speculation about the motives of the five
> newcomers taking money and not showing, it seems that the conversation needs
> to be deeper than simply stating expectations.
> <br><br>Often, when there is some unresolved issue in front of the group (we
> sometimes call this the "dead moose") it helps to simply allow it to
> come up in a circle process, using a talking piece.  I have found it
> especially important, in terms of "holding space" to not take on the
> role of picking and choosing parts of the agenda, or inviting specific people
> to speak.  Your five latecomers might well be right...they were singled
> out.  The question is, what do we do with people who were coming to
> circle with different expectations, under different circumstances?  What
> does this say about the kind of circle we are?  How should we together
> deal with these kinds of issues?  Opening space then using a talking
> piece invites people to take responsibility for the questions, and lessens
> their reliance on me (and the subsequent detachment of responsibility) as the
> facilitator.
> <br><br>A talking piece is a marvelous and effective way to handle these kinds
> of conversations.  It allows the time and spaciousness to keep a group
> opened beyond partisan bickering, and it makes for a very rich group
> conversation.  I remember several, including the one that happened this
> year at OSonOS in Halifax where we were deciding where OSonOS 2006 should
> be.  I was, and still am, in awe of the conversation that took place
> between 120 people that afternoon, all in a circle, all using a talking piece
> and all in the spirit of OS.
> <br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Chris<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/9/06,
> <b class="gmail_sendername">Stuart Worsley</b> <<a
> href="mailto:sworsley at snvworld.org">sworsley at snvworld.org</a>>
> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid
> rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
> New Arrivals into OS sessions.<br><br>Yesterday, I completed a two day OS
> session with the council, executive<br>and public stakeholders of the city of
> Eldoret in Kenya. We took the first<br>day so seek and document the divergant
> views, and on the second day
> <br>produced convergance and specific action plans. The group was a
> collection<br>of hitherto conflicting parties, and this became the first time
> that they<br>could sit together and dialogue. The event was highly energised
> and all
> <br>participated fully.<br><br>However, at the end of the first day, to close,
> I asked participants to<br>throw a light ball to one another, and as they
> received it, to reflect one<br>thing that they had learned. A couple of people
> stated that although they
> <br>had really enjoyed the sessions, they felt aggrieved that others of
> their<br>colleagues had collected council perdiem to attend, and had not shown
> up.<br>Of course I reminded them of the principles - whoever comes are the
> right
> <br>people.<br><br>Next morning, we started with convergance. Reports were
> given out and an<br>hour allowed for reflection and voting. We used stickies
> to indicate votes<br>on each issue. After we started, 5 new people arrived,
> grabbed a report
> <br>found some stickies and started to vote with the group. These were
> the<br>counsellors that were the subject of complaint the evening before.
> When<br>the circle was reformed, in order to hold the space, I decided to
> welcome
> <br>them in, and ask them to give their names and their expectations
> in<br>attending - as all had done yesterday. They stood up, and gave names
> and<br>sat down. From within the group, one vocal individual called out that
> they
> <br>should give their expectations too, in light of the fact that they had
> not<br>arrived until now. The new arrivals began to react demanding why they
> were<br>being singled out for attention. Some of the group started to defend
> them
> <br>saying that others were being too harsh, and the spirit of the
> circle<br>quickly dissipated into partisan hostility.<br><br>At this point, I
> decided to intervene by stating that we only wished to<br>welcome them in, and
> that we should move on to discuss the next stage of
> <br>convergance. I explained the next steps to a restless group, and
> suggested<br>that we all take some coffee.<br><br>After reconvening to add up
> votes and form small groups on priority<br>issues, things settled, and we
> returned to productive energised attention
> <br>for the remainder. Some of the new arrivals did settle in, while
> others<br>remained aloof, and even tried to leave the procedings, only to
> return<br>later.<br><br>I would appreciate anyone's reflections on this
> specifically with respect
> <br>to a) handling new arrivals to an OS session, and b) what experience
> is<br>there in managing the balance between holding space, and letting the
> group<br>degenerate into
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