OSONOS Hither and Yon (a little on the long side)

Tue Jan 24 21:46:26 PST 2006

Thanks, Harrison and colleagues!

Whats about ...
THE ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL OSONOS / year (No.)

plus .. (if folks are organizing it)

OSONOS continent / year
OSONOS country / year
OSONOS community / year
OSONOS town / year

OSONOS-ONLINE´s

OSONOS wikis / blogs

For me, the ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL is the most important Open Space Community 
Event. Even, if I have not the money or time to join, or if I feel not 
comfortable to travel so far and if I prefer to stay home on any reasons. I 
find the imagination very sad, that we all could begin more and more to 
focuse "only" on a meeting in our culture, in our own area. Our world need 
so much exchange between different cultures. I plead for keep the flag very 
high for THE ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL OSONOS, and of course to enable as much as 
possible other OSONOS´s local and around the globe.

Warmly,
Gabriela

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:29 PM
Subject: OSONOS Hither and Yon (a little on the long side)

> Several days ago I sent a short note to some folks everybody will 
> recognize
> as "regulars" on the LIST - all of which means they will need no
> introduction. Since sending that note, an interesting conversation has 
> been
> evolving and it seemed to me that others might wish to join in. And so I
> have engaged in a little cutting and pasting - what follows is the major
> pieces in order of their appearance. Which of course, is the reverse of 
> the
> way things usually show up here. But reverse perversity being my nature -
> what else would you expect. And it is all about OSONOS(s).
> **************************************************************************
>
> Maybe I am getting cabin fever - been raining a lot, but I have been
> thinking that it is about time to do an OSONOS in North America. The over
> the water stuff is great, but I am a little worried that we have neglected
> the homefolks. Or something. Seems like folks were pretty well cued up for
> OSONOS/ International (Moscow, Israel, Istanbul ???) and I certainly don't
> want to compete with all of that. Myself, I won't make Moscow (Maine and
> all), and who knows about the rest - but something closer to home would 
> work
> well, I thought. I even went so far as to check out a conference center
> right near Beautiful Camden, Maine. Nice place for 50-75 people and if we
> were to do this in the middle/end of September (say 2007) we could have 
> the
> whole thing for $500 a day with coffee and lunch for an additional $18 per
> person - or (for 2 days) about $52 total fee. There are plenty of nearby
> motels/B&Bs/hotels in virtually every price range - and at that time of
> year, deals can be made. What do you think?
>
> Harrison
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Count me in.  Anything to help Harrison cure a case of cabin fever - 
> because
> I don't like any of the rest of you at all!
>
> (H- do you need folks to front any cash?  I can help some.)
>
> xxoo
>
> Ralph
>
> -- 
> Ralph Copleman
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> thanks, harrison... and, you know, this is totally in line with what we
> instigated last year in chicago and got repeated in texas this year, under
> the usa banner... because i was thinking that the international, and even
> canadian osi, communities had left the usa crowd a bit behind.  also, of
> course, that was when our elections were coming up and we thought we might
> just do some good in the run-up to that.  and that's just some of why i'd 
> be
> all for this north american thing.
>
> i don't know where i am in sept 2006, much less 2007, but there's just got
> to be less commotion next year than this year, so chances are good i could
> swing it.  are you saying 2007 would be in camden as a NAmer thing or 
> *the*
> international thing coming home to camden?  i still keep wondering about 
> the
> idea i floated in australia, to have a couple of these things 
> simultaneously
> and report all the notes into the same online place.  seems like a great 
> way
> to gather more local friends and pay less airfare expense.  maybe someday.
> and camden in the meantime.
>
> M (herman)
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
> OSONOS in Maine sounds great.  There would be lots of interest from 
> Atlantic
> Canada to Ontario, I'd bet.  What would be the relationship to the OSI USA
> OSONOS events that have been going on?
>
> Larry
>
>
> Larry Peterson
>
> -------------------------------------------
> larry et al...
>
> i'm not sure that the usa osonos events ever really were osi usa events,
> larry.  the first invitation was written by doug germann and i, though i'm
> not sure if doug was yet a board member when that happened.  since then 
> he's
> joined and i've left the board, with a long period of overlap, but i'm not
> sure that board affiliation is enough to make it an osi event.  maybe
> somebody else remembers otherwise, and i could certainly be wrong in my 
> own
> memory.
>
> the events themselves, all two of them, were motivated by the same sense
> harrison mentions, wondering if the homefront here hasn't been neglected.
> at the time, we made it a usa event rather than north american because we
> had elections coming up down here and we thought that osi canada was 
> already
> doing much more up that way.  so we thought we had some unique needs and
> less attention being brought to them.
>
> i don't know if there is yet a third usa event planned for 2006.  no 
> matter,
> i'm sure it can easily slide right into the larger NA frame.
>
> Michael (herman)
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> This sounds fun...but we should think about the question it begs about the
> whole OSonOS franchise.  If we start making this a North American meeting,
> it would seem to me that either OSonOS would simply stay outside North
> America (and be smaller) or that we may end up meeting in NA every year 
> and
> once in a while that meeting also becomes OSonOS.  Not a big discussion or
> anyhting, just imagining what might happen
>
> Anyway, Maine sounds like a wonderful idea, and I'll put it near the top 
> of
> my "what might be possible this year" list.
>
> Cheers all,
>
> Chris (Corrigan)
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> thinking about the 'franchise' as chris puts it, i was thinking back in
> marysville that it would be cool to have osonos happen simultaneously in
> several locations, with all the notes posted to one place online.
>
> now that might or might not ever happen, but certainly it could be that
> 'osonos' is a moveable but not annual feast, happening many places each
> year.  in order to be an 'osonos' gathering it would only have to be
> announced as such and then we'd want to see the proceedings posted 
> somewhere
> online, as well, so we could all peek in on the whole of it.  as long as 
> we
> can link all the invitations and proceedings together, which is easy, it 
> is
> arguably one grand ongoing event.
>
> Michael
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> Michael Sounds good to me. OSONOS anywhere, anytime, anybody wants it - 
> just
> raise your hand and share the fun. And for sure online linkage must be 
> part
> of the package. In the past, I have done multi-site, simultaneous OS's and
> it works like gang busters. No reason the whole OS community can't do the
> same thing, and there might be some additional "pluses." For one thing it
> could take away something of the "competitive edge" that occasionally
> appears around THE ANNUAL OSONOS. It would also remove an aspect of the
> Annual "do" which I personally find sometimes difficult and 
> uncomfortable -
> namely the decision as the where next to go. Last year in Halifax we spent
> some time on this one. On balance I would guess that it was time well 
> spent
> in that we learned a lot about the capacity of that particular body of 
> folks
> to make an informed and difficult decision. However, the thought that the
> assembled crew was making a decision for the "community as a whole" was a
> stretch I thought. We were but a tiny part of that community, and I would
> bet that less than 50% of those present in Halifax will show up in 
> Moscow -
> and of course they will be replaced by an equal or larger number of the
> "right" people who care to come. In a way we have inadvertently converted
> the annual OSONOS into a zero sum game with winners and losers dividing up 
> a
> finite pie. But the pie (spaceniks around the world) seems to be pretty 
> much
> infinite.  So why go through the agony (if it was that) if you don't have
> to? Just OSONOS anywhere, anytime you care to - and those who care will
> come. Could take us to a whole new (win/win) level! And I just made OSONOS
> into a verb!
>
> OSONOS declined: --
>
> OSONOS
> OSONUS
> OSONUU
> OSONME
> OSON. . .
>
> And by the way - seems to me this discussion has become pretty juicy. 
> Should
> it be moved over to OSLIST?
>
> Harrison
>
>
> ***************************************************************************
>
> There you have it folks - perhaps a little more than you wanted, but does 
> it
> shake any trees, ring any bells?
>
> ho
>
>
>
>
>
>
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