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Diane Brandon
diane.brandon at comcast.net
Thu Feb 9 15:54:16 PST 2006
Julie, I've been meaning to ask for the same thing!
Thanks for doing it,
Diane Brandon
Eliot, Maine
On Feb 9, 2006, at 6:33 PM, Julie Alive with Energy wrote:
> Hello everybody. I'm new to the list after participating in my 3rd OS
> event, each one led by Michael Hermann.
>
> Is there anyway to ask the listserv host at Boise State to insert
> [OSLIST] in the front of each subject line. Right now, it's very
> difficult to identify the OS threads from the rest of my email and
> makes
> the list less friendly.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Julie Caldwell
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>From Thu Feb 9 16:50:53 2006
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:50:53 -0800
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From: Lisa Heft <lisaheft at openingspace.net>
Subject: Re: Poem
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Ralph, oh Ralph -
Your poem
was like
a dream
we all know
in our cells...
Lisa
Ralph wrote:
_____
I opened this space
today and found you
who I had been
I had not noticed
I had not noticed
I opened this space
today and found you
who I had been
Who I had been
I had not noticed
I opened this space
today and found you
You sitting there smiling
back at me forever
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>From Thu Feb 9 19:07:54 2006
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 19:07:54 -0800
Reply-To: lisaheft at openingspace.net
To: OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
From: Lisa Heft <lisaheft at openingspace.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for advice: Is this a time where OS should not be
used?
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Hi, Allison --
Allison wrote:
< I am wondering if I should continue to push for OS if it can only be
slotted in for a day especially if it follows 2 days which are more
keynote/presenter oriented. I think that it is taking a risk that I am
not sure is worth taking as I am not convinced that it will work. I
would really appreciate hearing your views/opinions especially if you
have done something similar which actually worked.>
It works, it works. Never fear.
I have done it several times. Sure, I have tried to get folks to see
the wisdom of doing the whole thing in OS, but there you go - they don't
always see the light ;o)
But they did see the partial light because they are asking for OS. And
you have done the right thing because the OS is *after* the other stuff.
And yes, I find it's best to do exactly what you are doing - to help
make the keynotes and plenaries and panels as interactive as possible.
Even to hold them all with the circle as the format.
Most importantly is to try either keep the speeches away from the Open
Space days entirely, or to make a delicious break (moving, talking,
changing places, dancing, whatever) before the OS (if speeches have to
happen the same day) so the bodies wake up and are ready to spring into
Open Space.
And yes, closing circle can be closing circle for the conference.and
yes, you will find that many people comment that they want the next one
to be all in Open Space.
I have done this as others have mentioned, in the spirit of 'what more
do we need to learn / share / teach / puzzle out / invite with one
another before we all go our separate ways?'
Oh, and I am smiling because Harrison is invoking a 'Lisaism' - how I
say that only visionaries invite in Open Space.
So maybe their vision is partial, but they are letting in the light. I
hope you can feel comfortable to give them the nutrition you really know
their bodies-minds-hearts desire, in spite of their fear about providing
controlled presentations for some reason.
By the way, I did indeed do an Open Space in Thailand, with doctors,
nurses, educators and activists from all over Asia, at the last
international AIDS conference (Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and other
countries). Needless to say, everyone knew just what to do and all I
had to do was get out of the way..
Have the very best time,
Lisa
PS if you have the signs translated or any of the other phrases I would
love to add them to the Open Space glossary of terms and phrases I have
at my website, for all of us to use and share.
http://www.openingspace.net/glossary.php?all
PPS: They are very lucky to have you.
___________________________
L i s a H e f t
Consultant, Facilitator, Educator
O p e n i n g S p a c e
2325 Oregon
Berkeley, California
94705-1106 USA
+01 510 548-8449
lisaheft at openingspace.net
www.openingspace.net
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10.0pt'>Allison wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><i style=3D'mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><font =
size=3D2
face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>< I am wondering if I should continue to push for OS if it =
can only be
slotted in for a day especially if it follows 2 days which are more =
keynote/presenter
oriented. I think that it is taking a risk that I am not sure is worth =
taking
as I am not convinced that it will work. I would really appreciate =
hearing your
views/opinions especially if you have done something similar which =
actually
worked</span></font></i>.><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>It works, it works.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> =
</span>Never
fear.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>I have done it several times.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>Sure, I have tried to get folks to see the wisdom of doing the =
whole
thing in OS, but there you go – they don’t always see the =
light ;o)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>But they did see the partial light because they are asking for =
OS.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And you have done the right =
thing
because the OS is *<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>after</span></b>* =
the
other stuff.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>And yes, I find it’s best to do exactly what you are doing =
–
to help make the keynotes and <span class=3DSpellE>plenaries</span> and =
panels as
interactive as possible. <span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Even to
hold them all with the circle as the =
format.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Most importantly is to try either keep the speeches away from =
the Open
Space days entirely, or to make a delicious break (moving, talking, =
changing places,
dancing, whatever) before the OS (if speeches have to happen the same =
day) so
the bodies wake up and are ready to spring into Open =
Space.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>And yes, closing circle can be closing circle for the =
conference…and
<span class=3DGramE>yes,</span> you will find that many people comment =
that they
want the next one to be all in Open Space.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>I have done this as others have mentioned, in the spirit of =
‘what
more do we need to learn / share / teach / puzzle out / invite with one =
another
before we all go our separate ways?’<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Oh, and I am smiling because Harrison is invoking a ‘<span
class=3DSpellE>Lisaism</span>’ – how I say that only =
visionaries
invite in Open Space.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>So maybe their vision is partial, but they are letting in the =
light.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I hope you can feel comfortable =
to give
them the nutrition you really know their bodies-minds-hearts desire, in =
spite
of their fear about providing controlled presentations for some =
reason.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>By the way, I did indeed do an Open Space in Thailand, with =
doctors,
nurses, educators and activists from all over Asia, at the last =
international
AIDS conference (Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and other countries).<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Needless to say, everyone knew =
just what
to do and all I had to do was get out of the =
way….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Have the very best time,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Lisa<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>PS if you have the signs translated or any of the other phrases =
I would
love to add them to the Open Space glossary of terms and phrases I have =
at my
website, for all of us to use and share… <a
href=3D"http://www.openingspace.net/glossary.php?all">http://www.openings=
pace.net/glossary.php?all</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>PPS: They are very lucky to have =
you…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;mso-no-proof:yes'>___________________________<o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;mso-no-proof:yes'>L i s a<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>H e f t<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;mso-no-proof:yes'>Consultant, Facilitator, =
Educator<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;mso-no-proof:yes'>O p e n i n g<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>S p a c e<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;mso-no-proof:yes'>2325 Oregon<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;mso-no-proof:yes'>Berkeley, =
California<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;mso-no-proof:yes'>94705-1106<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>USA<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;mso-no-proof:yes'>+01 510 548-8449<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;mso-no-proof:yes'>lisaheft at openingspace.net<o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:
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