Working with visual artists at an Open Space

Justin T. Sampson justin at krasama.com
Thu Aug 24 16:03:41 PDT 2006


Reinhard wrote:

> Right now I take part in a project (not OS), where the client
> organized 200 interviews of storytelling, done in pairs, and the
> listening partner did write the story down. Then it was revised
> and typed, then revised again, and now all the stories are dead
> and boaring! A true storyteller would have used the content and
> would have given it a form to reach people, to bring the message
> to the public. For me that is beautiful! You also could build a
> scene play, dance the messages, sing them, draw them (what I
> did).

This was done at NCDD 2006, facilitated by John Warren of
Unconditional Theatre <http://www.untheatre.org/>. He and several
attendees jotted down quotes throughout the conference (not
interviews, just things said anywhere during the conference) and
then coalesced them into a couple of scripts that they read during
the morning plenary sessions. Very nice!

Cheers,
Justin

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Peggy,
Thank you for the gift of this story. When you have time, I would
appreciate hearing your reflections about whether you think you would
have had the same experiences if you weren=92t in the dual role of both
sponsor and facilitator. It seems to me that, at the level of energy, it
would have been difficult to dissociate from some attachment to outcome
as the sponsor and this could have been felt by participants when you
were facilitator.
=20
I am also mulling over the learning you refer to in terms of co-creating
rather than a defensive stand. For me, co-creating the bigger design of
the event seems like what you did and did well. The event might or might
not have ended up with an OST meeting as a part of it. However, I feel
that the facilitator co-creating in the OST itself could end  up closing
space and so I would like to hear more from you regarding this.=20
=20
With appreciation for the learnings you are sharing,
Birgitt
=20
Birgitt Williams

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Subject: Breaking Open (long)
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During the last week of June, I hosted what turned out to be the most
personally challenging work I=92ve done in a very long time.  In fact, =
I=92d
say it broke me open, in a difficult but valuable way.  The primary gift
was a move from a defensive stand around Open Space to a co-creative
stand.  I=92ll say more about what this means and how I got there by
sharing the story of what it was like to hold space for Philanthropy,
Love, and Evolution (also known as the Philanthropy Salon).  My intent
is not so much to share the story of the conference, but rather, the
story of facilitating the conference.
=20
To begin at the beginning=85the signs that this would be different were
there right from the start.  You know that thing about every group
saying, =93we=92re different?=94, well, based on my experience,
transformational philanthropy =96 philanthropy intended to make a
substantive difference in how systems (e.g., health care, education,
media, etc.) themselves work =96 really is different!  But, that shall
unfold=85.
=20
The idea for the gathering was born in May, 2005, when Michael Dowd, Tom
Atlee, and I hosted the first Evolutionary Salon.  At the end of the
gathering, one of our agreements was to host some =93strategic
conversations=94, bringing an evolutionary world view (I=92ll share some
background on this in another posting) to different high leverage
fields.  We decided to start with philanthropists.  In September, 2005,
we each reached out to people we knew in the field to ask their counsel
on how best to reach this audience.  On a conference call, we were met
with enthusiastic support.  People jumped in, saying=85=94we should do =
x,
let=92s try y=94=85in other words rather than telling us what WE needed =
to do,
our counselors enlisted themselves in the work!  Seemed like an
auspicious beginning, as they agreed to become our planning group.
=20
Over the next few weeks, we drafted an invitation and identified the
well-respected, well-networked leaders in the field of transformational
philanthropy.  Our planning team thought it looked great=85until they
realized that the invitations would be coming from them.  Suddenly, it
wasn=92t quite right.  We went back to the drawing board, getting =
clearer
about the purpose of the gathering.  We wrote another invitation and
were met with another stepping back. =20
=20
=93Hmmm=85.I wondered, is there a pattern here?=94  On our next call, I =
asked
about this approach-avoid pattern.  I was clear to come from a place of
curiosity and non-attachment.  After some self-reflection, people
acknowledged this as a cultural characteristic (understandable when, as
one said, everyone has an opinion on the best way you should spend your
money).  Still, it was something of a turning point.  The next version
of the invitation =93took=94 and inviting began in earnest.  It was slow =
at
the beginning, but as it became the place to be, we ultimately reached
the capacity of our facility with just the sort of mix of folks we had
envisioned coming together.
=20
As the date grew closer, I had my second cultural surprise: more
participants contacted me with opinions and requests about how the
gathering should be designed than I=92ve ever experienced before.  In
retrospect, I can describe some of the other cultural characteristics
that I believe were at play.  First, most of these folks spend their
professional lives in facilitated conversations.  They are VERY
sophisticated about process.  And since transformational philanthropy
has something of a spiritual aspect to it, most of them have done deep
personal work.  Many were used to processes that took them into spaces
of intimate, collective connection.  Some of the participants I talked
with before the gathering were familiar with Open Space, and didn=92t
think much of it (more on this in another posting).  Secondly, though
sophisticated, I found some odd blind spots.  My hunch is that this is a
group of people, who are among the =93powerful=94 that many have trouble
speaking truth to (as in speaking truth to power).  I suspect they may
be sheltered from the uncomfortable or the difficult even if that =
isn=92t
their preference.  Finally, while the facilitator is ALWAYS in service
to the group, most groups unconsciously cede their power to the
facilitator.  This is a group that fully understands that the
facilitator serves at their pleasure.  Again, this didn=92t truly come
clear to me until the meeting itself. =20
=20
>From the half-dozen or so conversations I had with participants prior to
the gathering, there were two issues that were most clearly expressed:
the need to go =93deep=94 and the need for agreements so that there was =
a
sense of safety for marginalized voices. (Thanks to one of the planning
group, we had a wonderful mix of people of color and youth present.)  As
is often the case when working with people who want to fill the space
with planned processes, I was highly protective of the space.  Tom
described me as a mama bear.
=20
As I started to appreciate the demands of this group, I was glad to have
some highly skilled partners for the hosting: Thomas Hurley, Juanita
Brown and Tom Atlee.  As we began discussing specifics, they made it
clear that they would do their best to support me.  Though it was not
the design that they would have used given a clean slate, they were
there to make it work.  I made the choice that we would not begin in
Open Space for several reasons:
=20
*         Our experiences of the 2nd and 3rd salons made it clear that
we needed to set some context with the evolutionary story. =20
*         There were enough participants that I knew were hostile to
Open Space that I wanted to start with something more familiar to them
(BTW, as I checked into it, several had experienced multiple day OS
gatherings with OS practitioners that I respected, so it wasn=92t a case
of inexperienced support)
*         My hosting partners had gifts to contribute to the mix
*         I had sufficient clues to know I was dealing with a culture
that I didn=92t understand.  Since I was working with people who were
familiar with the culture,   I knew I needed to trust their counsel.
(The planning stretched us all as we made room for each other=92s very
different beliefs about facilitation.)
=20
We had the luxury of time - an evening, and 4.5 days.  We agreed that
before going into Open Space, we had two pre-requisites: go deep =96
creating a strong sense of intimacy and community, and ground people in
the evolutionary story (a lesson from the second and third evolutionary
salons) so that when we opened the space, we would go broad from depth.
I was actually quite excited by this, suspecting that with the diverse
mix of people present, that deep connection would increase the
likelihood for breakthrough.  On the issue of agreements, I argued that
this would work itself out in the Open Space, so we didn=92t take it on
directly.
=20
The first evening, people introduced themselves by taking a =
=93courageous
love name=94.  (This was inspired by two sources: the etymology of
philanthropy =96 loving humanity (or more loosely, loving service); and
something we=92d done at Spirited Work one season.  We=92d chosen =
warrior
names.  In the spirit of a broader understanding of philanthropy, rather
than warrior names, people took a courageous love name.  Mine, which I
have used since taking it as my warrior name at Spirited Work, is
Standing Still in the Fire.  Little did I know that I would have quite
the opportunity to live into my name! =20
=20
Following this step into intimacy, what was supposed to be a 60 minute
presentation on evolution by a cosmologist, ran way over.  While it
contained beautiful animations of galaxies from the Hubble, there was
enough technical information and it was late enough at night, that it
turned out not to be the inspiring introduction to the story of
evolution that we had expected.  (Something that Juanita and Thomas had
been VERY concerned about.)  When it was over, I said to Thomas, that
while I knew he would find no satisfaction in it, he had been right
about not doing the presentation in the evening.)
=20
Following this mixed beginning, Juanita, Thomas, Tom, and I met and
concluded that we should re-think our plans for the next day.  The
location of the gathering, Gold Lake, is very special land.
Traditionally a gathering place for Native American tribes to put aside
their weapons and meet in peace, this land and its native populations
were ravaged by settlers when gold was found nearby. Its current
stewards are working to honor and restore its special energy to support
efforts that heal and transform the world.  We began the first full day
by offering some reflective questions to people and sent them out to
connect with the land and each other, using the questions as they
wished. =20
=20
When they returned, Juanita was to host a World Caf=E9 intended to begin
connecting philanthropy and evolution.  As she introduced the question
for the caf=E9, one of the young people, Evon, a man who had been chief =
of
his Alaskan tribe, spoke.  He was respectful and articulate and named
his discomfort with evolution, a term which we=92d incorporated into the
question being used for the caf=E9.  More than this discomfort, he was
raising the question of safe space (remember that pre-conference warning
that we needed to create agreements?  I hadn=92t counted on this being =
an
issue before the space was opened!).  Juanita handled the situation with
grace, ultimately handing the leadership to Evon and a partner with whom
he worked, angel to create safe space.  We moved back into a council
circle and they led a circle in which people could say whatever they
felt they needed to say for the space to be open for their voices.
While this was frustrating to those who wanted to get to the content
(and they voiced this), it seemed to accomplish its purpose. =20
=20
When Juanita, Thomas, Tom and I met after this circle, we agreed it was
time to open the space.  One other factor now entered the situation for
me.  We were at 8,500 feet of elevation.  I discovered that I couldn=92t
get more than 3 hours of sleep each night.  And I=92m an 8-hour-a-night
kind of person.  I was well aware of being far less centered than I
usually am when opening space.
=20
Tuesday morning, I opened the space.  Something occurred that has never
happened to me in the 12 years of space holding.  The group rebelled.
They were quite adamant that they wanted to stay together until they had
a common grounding in both the state of transformational philanthropy
and an understanding of the evolutionary story.  I said that all they
needed to do was post the sessions and it would be clear by how people
negotiated at the agenda wall and how they used their two feet if they
all wanted to stay together.  They rejected this; I stepped back and
watched as a debate ensued over whether to do a fish bowl, a world =
caf=E9,
or some other form to handle their desire to stay together.  As I
witnessed this, I was mostly marveling over the passion of this group as
it clearly took charge of its needs.  After about 45 minutes, the group
fragmented into lots of small conversations.  At that point, I made the
one choice that in retrospect, I see as my attachment to things.  It was
an impulse based in my Spirited Work culture =96 I got up, asked for
silence, said I=92d ring a bell and when they came out of silence, they
would know what to do.  When the sound of the bell just ended, one of
the participants, who was sitting directly across from me, looked
straight at me and said they were doing just fine, thank you and that my
ringing of the bell was completely out of order.  I felt seared by his
words.  I was standing still in the fire and I got cooked.  Shortly
after that, another participant said that he thought they should do what
I had suggested =96 post their sessions and see what people were
interested in.  And that=92s what they did.  Vindication of sorts.  They
did stay as a group for the afternoon, with two powerful sessions, one
on how the field of transformational philanthropy had evolved, followed
by a session that finally provided some insight into what the
evolutionary world view had to offer to philanthropy.
=20
That evening, one of the participants hosted an extraordinary
storytelling session that took people into very intimate connection with
each other.  The design was simple:  Tell a story of personal
transformation.  People had 3-4 minutes for their stories.  A bell was
sounded at 3 minutes and again at 4 minutes.  There was a talking
object, so whoever wished to speak could do so when they were ready to
tell their story.
=20
It took 2 days before most folks talked to me.  I realized that in
process work terms, I=92d played an important role, making it completely
clear who was in charge - them.  I was basically fine with what had
taken place, still, it was definitely took some deep breathing to be at
peace with it all.  I spent much of the time over the rest of the
gathering making amends with the people who had called me before the
gathering, letting them know that I realized that I needed to work with
them in a co-creative way rather than simply defending the space.  As an
example of what I mean by this, on the last day of the OS, one of the
participants approached me with a common request in multiple day Open
Spaces =96 they wanted people to say more than a title for their =
sessions
so that they had a better understanding of what the sessions were about.
My traditional stance for this is to encourage them to talk to the
convener to find out more.  This time, when we began the morning
postings, I named the request and the tension =96 the more time =
describing
sessions, the less time to be in them.  I said they were adults and
could make their choices knowing this was the tradeoff.  I felt this
honored the request and the space.  It seemed to work.
=20
This is how I am thinking about what it means to be co-creative:
Identify what, if any, tensions exist between the request and keeping
the space open and then work with the requester to create a response
that respects both.
=20
By the end of the conference, a number of the participants talked about
it as a landmark event.  When Michael, Tom and I had discussed our
desire for this gathering before it began, that had been our highest
aspiration.  No matter how personally challenging it was, the outcome
was all that I could have wanted=85and more.
=20
Unlike most Open Spaces, I actually wrote a report:
HYPERLINK
"http://www.co-intelligence.org/PhilanthropyES2006.html"http://www.co-in
telligence.org/PhilanthropyES2006.html=20
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Stay tuned for:
=20
*                    The perceptions of Open Space by some of the folks
I met
*                    The evolutionary world view (as offered in the
context of its relationship to conversation)
=20
=20
BTW, one other cultural characteristic of philanthropists =96 they live
their lives as butterflies, holding many, many private sessions.
=20
________________________________
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The Open Circle Company
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thank you for the gift of this =
story. When
you have time, I would appreciate hearing your reflections about whether =
you
think you would have had the same experiences if you weren’t in =
the dual
role of both sponsor and facilitator. It seems to me that, at the level =
of
energy, it would have been difficult to dissociate from some attachment =
to
outcome as the sponsor and this could have been felt by participants =
when you
were facilitator.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am also mulling over the learning =
you
refer to in terms of co-creating rather than a defensive stand. For me,
co-creating the bigger design of the event seems like what you did and =
did
well. The event might or might not have ended up with an OST meeting as =
a part
of it. However, I feel that the facilitator co-creating in the OST =
itself could
<span class=3DGramE>end <span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0</span>up</span> closing
space and so I would like to hear more from you regarding this. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With appreciation for the <span
class=3DSpellE>learnings</span> you are =
sharing,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Birgitt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>=


<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Birgitt =
Williams<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'><img width=3D252 =
height=3D138
id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
src=3D"cid:image001.gif at 01C6C799.DA79D8E0"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Peggy Holman<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August =
24, 2006
12:02 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Breaking Open =
(long)</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>During the last week of June, I hosted what =
turned out
to be the most personally challenging work I’ve done in a very =
long
time.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>In fact, I’d say =
it broke me
open, in a difficult but valuable way.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>The
primary gift was a move from a defensive stand around Open Space to a
co-creative stand.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I’ll =
say more
about what this means and how I got there by sharing the story of what =
it was
like to hold space for Philanthropy, Love, and Evolution (also known as =
the
Philanthropy Salon).<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>My =
intent is not so
much to share the story of the conference, but rather, the story of
facilitating the conference.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>To begin at the beginning…the signs =
that this
would be different were there right from the start.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>You know that thing about every =
group saying,
“we’re different?”, well, based on my experience,
transformational philanthropy – philanthropy intended to make a
substantive difference in how systems (e.g., health care, education, =
media,
etc.) themselves work – really is different!<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>But, that shall =
unfold….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The idea for the gathering was born in May, =
2005, when
Michael Dowd, Tom Atlee, and I hosted the first Evolutionary Salon.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>At the end of the gathering, one =
of our
agreements was to host some “strategic conversations”, =
bringing an
evolutionary world view (I’ll share some background on this in =
another
posting) to different high leverage fields.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>We decided to start with philanthropists.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>In September, 2005, we each =
reached out to
people we knew in the field to ask their counsel on how best to reach =
this
audience.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>On a conference =
call, we were
met with enthusiastic support.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>People
jumped in, saying…”we should do x, let’s try
y”…in other words rather than telling us what WE needed to =
do, our
counselors enlisted themselves in the work!<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>Seemed like an auspicious beginning, as they agreed to become our
planning group.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Over the next few weeks, we drafted an =
invitation and
identified the well-respected, well-networked leaders in the field of
transformational philanthropy. <span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0</span>Our
planning team thought it looked great…until they realized that the
invitations would be coming from them.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>Suddenly, it wasn’t quite right.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>We went back to the drawing board, getting clearer about the =
purpose of
the gathering.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>We wrote =
another invitation
and were met with another stepping back.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>“Hmmm….I wondered, is there a =
pattern
here?”<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>On our next =
call, I asked
about this approach-avoid pattern.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>I was
clear to come from a place of curiosity and non-attachment.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>After some self-reflection, people
acknowledged this as a cultural characteristic (understandable when, as =
one
said, everyone has an opinion on the best way you should spend your
money).<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Still, it was =
something of a
turning point.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>The next =
version of the
invitation “took” and inviting began in earnest.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>It was slow at the beginning, but =
as it
became the place to be, we ultimately reached the capacity of our =
facility with
just the sort of mix of folks we had envisioned coming =
together.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>As the date grew closer, I had my second =
cultural surprise:
more participants contacted me with opinions and requests about how the
gathering should be designed than I’ve ever experienced =
before.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>In retrospect, I can describe some =
of the
other cultural characteristics that I believe were at play.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>First, most of these folks spend =
their
professional lives in facilitated conversations.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>They are VERY sophisticated about
process.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>And since =
transformational
philanthropy has something of a spiritual aspect to it, most of them =
have done
deep personal work.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Many were =
used to
processes that took them into spaces of intimate, collective =
connection.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Some of the participants I talked =
with before
the gathering were familiar with Open Space, and didn’t think much =
of it
(more on this in another posting).<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>Secondly, though sophisticated, I found some odd blind =
spots.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>My hunch is that this is a group =
of people,
who are among the “powerful” that many have trouble speaking =
truth
to (as in speaking truth to power).<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>I
suspect they may be sheltered from the uncomfortable or the difficult =
even if
that isn’t their preference.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>Finally, while the facilitator is ALWAYS in service to the group, =
most
groups unconsciously cede their power to the facilitator.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>This is a group that fully =
understands that
the facilitator serves at their pleasure.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>Again, this didn’t truly come clear to me until the meeting
itself.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>From the half-dozen or so conversations I had =
with
participants prior to the gathering, there were two issues that were =
most
clearly expressed: the need to go “deep” and the need for
agreements so that there was a sense of safety for marginalized voices. =
(Thanks
to one of the planning group, we had a wonderful mix of people of color =
and
youth present.)<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>As is often =
the case
when working with people who want to fill the space with planned =
processes, I
was highly protective of the space.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>Tom
described me as a mama bear.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>As I started to appreciate the demands of =
this group,
I was glad to have some highly skilled partners for the hosting: Thomas =
Hurley,
Juanita Brown and Tom Atlee.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>As we began
discussing specifics, they made it clear that they would do their best =
to
support me.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Though it was not =
the design
that they would have used given a clean slate, they were there to make =
it
work.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I made the choice that =
we would
not begin in Open Space for several =
reasons:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3D2 =
face=3DSymbol><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;
mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol'><span
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>=B7<font size=3D1 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>        
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Our experiences of the =
2<sup>nd</sup>
and 3<sup>rd</sup> salons made it clear that we needed to set some =
context with
the evolutionary story.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3D2 =
face=3DSymbol><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;
mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol'><span
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>=B7<font size=3D1 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>        
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>There were enough =
participants
that I knew were hostile to Open Space that I wanted to start with =
something
more familiar to them (BTW, as I checked into it, several had =
experienced
multiple day OS gatherings with OS practitioners that I respected, so it
wasn’t a case of inexperienced support)<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3D2 =
face=3DSymbol><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;
mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol'><span
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>=B7<font size=3D1 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>        
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>My hosting partners had =
gifts to
contribute to the mix<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3D2 =
face=3DSymbol><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;
mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol'><span
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>=B7<font size=3D1 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>        
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>I had sufficient clues to =
know I
was dealing with a culture that I didn’t understand.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Since I was working with people =
who were
familiar with the culture,<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0=A0 =
</span>I knew I
needed to trust their counsel.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>(The
planning stretched us all as we made room for each other’s very =
different
beliefs about facilitation.)<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>We had the luxury of time - an evening, and =
4.5
days.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>We agreed that before =
going into
Open Space, we had two pre-requisites: go deep – creating a strong =
sense
of intimacy and community, and ground people in the evolutionary story =
(a
lesson from the second and third evolutionary salons) so that when we =
opened
the space, we would go broad from depth.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>I was actually quite excited by this, suspecting that with the =
diverse
mix of people present, that deep connection would increase the =
likelihood for
breakthrough.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>On the issue of
agreements, I argued that this would work itself out in the Open Space, =
so we
didn’t take it on directly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The first evening, people introduced =
themselves by
taking a “courageous love name”.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>(This was inspired by two sources: the etymology of philanthropy =
–
loving humanity (or more loosely, loving service); and something =
we’d
done at Spirited Work one season.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>We’d chosen warrior names.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>In the spirit of a broader understanding of philanthropy, rather =
than
warrior names, people took a courageous love name.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Mine, which I have used since =
taking it as my
warrior name at Spirited Work, is Standing Still in the Fire.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Little did I know that I would =
have quite the
opportunity to live into my name!<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Following this step into intimacy, what was =
supposed
to be a 60 minute presentation on evolution by a cosmologist, ran way
over.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>While it contained =
beautiful
animations of galaxies from the Hubble, there was enough technical =
information
and it was late enough at night, that it turned out not to be the =
inspiring
introduction to the story of evolution that we had expected.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>(Something that Juanita and Thomas =
had been
VERY concerned about.)<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>When =
it was over,
I said to Thomas, that while I knew he would find no satisfaction in it, =
he had
been right about not doing the presentation in the =
evening.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Following this mixed beginning, Juanita, =
Thomas, Tom,
and I met and concluded that we should re-think our plans for the next
day.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>The location of the =
gathering, <st1:place u1:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName =
u1:st=3D"on">Gold</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType u1:st=3D"on">Lake</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, is very =
special
land.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span><span =
style=3D'mso-bidi-font-weight:
bold'>Traditionally a gathering place for Native American tribes to put =
aside
their weapons and meet in peace, this land and its native populations =
were
ravaged by settlers when gold was found nearby. Its current stewards are
working to honor and restore its special energy to support efforts that =
heal
and transform the world.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>We =
began the
first full day by offering some reflective questions to people and sent =
them
out to connect with the land and each other, using the questions as they
wished.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span><o:p></o:p></span></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></s=
pan></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>When they returned, =
Juanita
was to host a World Caf=E9 intended to begin connecting philanthropy and
evolution.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>As she introduced =
the
question for the caf=E9, one of the young people, Evon, a man who had =
been chief
of his Alaskan tribe, spoke.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>He was
respectful and articulate and named his discomfort with evolution, a =
term which
we’d incorporated into the question being used for the =
caf=E9.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>More than this discomfort, he was =
raising the
question of safe space (remember that pre-conference warning that we =
needed to
create agreements?<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I =
hadn’t
counted on this being an issue before the space was opened!).<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Juanita handled the situation with =
grace,
ultimately handing the leadership to Evon and a partner with whom he =
worked,
angel to create safe space.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>We moved
back into a council circle and they led a circle in which people could =
say
whatever they felt they needed to say for the space to be open for their
voices.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>While this was =
frustrating to
those who wanted to get to the content (and they voiced this), it seemed =
to
accomplish its purpose.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>When Juanita, Thomas, Tom and I met after =
this circle,
we agreed it was time to open the space.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>One other factor now entered the situation for me.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>We were at 8,500 feet of =
elevation.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I discovered that I couldn’t =
get more
than 3 hours of sleep each night.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>And
I’m an 8-hour-a-night kind of person.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>I was well aware of being far less centered than I usually am =
when
opening space.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Tuesday morning, I opened the space.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Something occurred that has never =
happened to
me in the 12 years of space holding.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>The
group rebelled.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>They were =
quite adamant
that they wanted to stay together until they had a common grounding in =
both the
state of transformational philanthropy and an understanding of the =
evolutionary
story.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I said that all they =
needed to do
was post the sessions and it would be clear by how people negotiated at =
the
agenda wall and how they used their two feet if they all wanted to stay
together.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>They rejected this; =
I stepped
back and watched as a debate ensued over whether to do a fish bowl, a =
world
caf=E9, or some other form to handle their desire to stay together.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>As I witnessed this, I was mostly =
marveling over
the passion of this group as it clearly took charge of its needs.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>After about 45 minutes, the group =
fragmented
into lots of small conversations.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>At
that point, I made the one choice that in retrospect, I see as my =
attachment to
things.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>It was an impulse =
based in my
Spirited Work culture – I got up, asked for silence, said =
I’d ring
a bell and when they came out of silence, they would know what to =
do.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>When the sound of the bell just =
ended, one of
the participants, who was sitting directly across from me, looked =
straight at
me and said they were doing just fine, thank you and that my ringing of =
the
bell was completely out of order.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>I felt
seared by his words.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I was =
standing
still in the fire and I got cooked.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>Shortly after that, another participant said that he thought they =
should
do what I had suggested – post their sessions and see what people =
were
interested in.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>And =
that’s what
they did.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Vindication of =
sorts.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>They did stay as a group for the =
afternoon,
with two powerful sessions, one on how the field of transformational
philanthropy had evolved, followed by a session that finally provided =
some
insight into what the evolutionary world view had to offer to =
philanthropy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>That evening, one of the participants hosted =
an
extraordinary storytelling session that took people into very intimate
connection with each other.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>The design
was simple:<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Tell a story of =
personal
transformation.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>People had =
3-4 minutes
for their stories.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>A bell was =
sounded at
3 minutes and again at 4 minutes.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>There
was a talking object, so whoever wished to speak could do so when they =
were
ready to tell their story.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>It took 2 days before most folks talked to =
me.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I realized that in process work =
terms,
I’d played an important role, making it completely clear who was =
in
charge - them.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I was =
basically fine with
what had taken place, still, it was definitely took some deep breathing =
to be
at peace with it all.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I spent =
much of
the time over the rest of the gathering making amends with the people =
who had
called me before the gathering, letting them know that I realized that I =
needed
to work with them in a co-creative way rather than simply defending the
space.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>As an example of what =
I mean by
this, on the last day of the OS, one of the participants approached me =
with a
common request in multiple day Open Spaces – they wanted people to =
say
more than a title for their sessions so that they had a better =
understanding of
what the sessions were about.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 =
</span>My
traditional stance for this is to encourage them to talk to the convener =
to
find out more.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>This time, =
when we began
the morning postings, I named the request and the tension – the =
more time
describing sessions, the less time to be in them.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I said they were adults and could =
make their
choices knowing this was the tradeoff.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>I
felt this honored the request and the space.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0
</span>It seemed to work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>This is how I am thinking about what it means =
to be
co-creative: Identify what, if any, tensions exist between the request =
and
keeping the space open and then work with the requester to create a =
response
that respects both.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>By the end of the conference, a number of the
participants talked about it as a landmark event.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>When Michael, Tom and I had =
discussed our
desire for this gathering before it began, that had been our highest
aspiration.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>No matter how =
personally
challenging it was, the outcome was all that I could have =
wanted…and
more.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Unlike most Open Spaces, I actually wrote a =
report:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><a
href=3D"http://www.co-intelligence.org/PhilanthropyES2006.html">http://ww=
w.co-intelligence.org/PhilanthropyES2006.html</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Stay tuned for:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.5in;tab-stops:list =
.75in'><font
size=3D3 face=3DSymbol><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:
Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol'>=B7</span></font><font =
size=3D1><span
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol'>  &nbs=
p;           &nbsp=
;    
</span></font>The perceptions of Open Space by some of the folks I =
met<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.5in;tab-stops:list =
.75in'><font
size=3D3 face=3DSymbol><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:
Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol'>=B7</span></font><font =
size=3D1><span
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol'>  &nbs=
p;           &nbsp=
;    
</span></font>The evolutionary world view (as offered in the context of =
its
relationship to conversation)<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>BTW, one other cultural characteristic of
philanthropists – they live their lives as butterflies, holding =
many,
many private sessions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'>________________________________<br>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><a
href=3D"http://www.opencirclecompany.com">www.opencirclecompany.com</a></=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>"An angel told me that the only way to =
step into
the fire and not get burnt, is to become <br>
the fire".<br>
  -- Drew Dellinger<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Thank you for your input dear Reinhard,
I am having a few thoughts about this. The first vision that came to
mind and caused me to smile, was to have a well planned OST meeting, to
have no OST facilitator, and to have a visual facilitator present to
offer a reflection back to the people of their process. I then decided I
liked that image. The people would self organize and at the same time
would have an ongoing reflection tool so that the tool could assist them
in reaching into themselves and getting clearer on their thoughts and
developing new competencies including greater consciousness.=20
=20
Yesterday I read that a key role for leaders today is to assist the
organization in becoming conscious of itself. And Reinhard, this made me
think of  you and your work. It is a way to assist the organization, or
the organization in an OST meeting, become more conscious of itself.
What a great gift!  On this note, I am imagining the visual artist at
the OST meeting. The OST facilitator opens the meeting and introduces
the visual artist as someone who is going to capture in pictures, what
is happening through the day so that the client gets the benefit of the
content from the OST meeting plus the opportunity of a great tool for
the organization to become more conscious of itself in the meeting
itself. I don=92t think it is a requirement of the visual facilitator to
make a presentation. Unless I am mistaken, the visual facilitator posts
his/her pictures on the reflection wall and people come up to this wall
all day long and look and use this as a form of their reflection, and
getting more impulses to their ideas, specifically right hemisphere
directed ideas. And they can engage in a discussion with the visual
facilitator if they wish. That sounds pretty good. Value added.=20
=20
I personally love the work of visual artists. I use words a lot and when
I am working with an artist, the artist reflects back to me what he/she
heard me say and then I know if my communication was what I meant it to
be. This is a great gift to me when it happens. When the communication
was not captured in the way that I thought I was communicating, I work
at it again until the reflection back to me is what I was intending. I
love this as a way to have better communication.
=20
Blessings,
Birgitt
=20
Birgitt Williams

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=20
Hi Birgitt,
=20
you are challenging me! So I jump into the ring, as an outsider.=20
=20
When Harrison Owen used the fourfold way of Angeles Arrien to form the
method of Open Space, he did an ingenious job, as the world wide
distribution of the method shows every day. But ...
=20
Now Open Space seems to me to be both, a method and a movement. The
movement organizes OSonOssses etc. and spreads also with amazing speed.=20
=20
I am not part of the movement, but I admire the method, use it
sometimes, and took part as a visual facilitator (I prefer that
expression to visual artist)  several times, so also together with you.
And since years I am a member of this list serve and follow the
discussions.
=20
So if I am asking for a dialogue, what have I to say, and what do I
expect?
=20
A dialogue for me is different from a discussion. In a discussion
everybody tries to be right and convince the others, in a dialogue
everybody listens and is ready to learn. So I tell my story, and am
curious what will happen.
=20
Michael Hermann writes:
=20
" is the artist's work beautiful, interesting, magical, and more? yes,
of course. but what if i am a great story teller? would i ever get up
and attempt to 'keynote' the closing circle with my own summation?"
=20
 Of course Michael expects everybody to cry out "of course not!" But I
say: WHY NOT?????? =20
For me the method of OS is brilliant at its beginning, excellent in the
middle, and only slightly average at the end. I see no value in boaring
texts, written by the obediant ones. I am no friend of spoken reports of
group results. Words, words, words. I am missing the fire that was alive
in the groups! Alive, not online, not typed, to feel it with your
senses! And I know, that images can help a lot here.
 Right now I take part in a project (not OS), where the client organized
200 interviews of storytelling, done in pairs, and the listening partner
did write the story down. Then it was revised and typed, then revised
again, and now all the stories are dead and boaring! A true storyteller
would have used the content and would have given it a form to reach
people, to bring the message to the public. For me that is beautiful!
You also could build a scene play, dance the messages, sing them, draw
them (what I did).
Birgitt, you wrote:" when you gave us your gifts as a visual artist,
people=92s learning ended up going much deeper through the art as a
wonderful reflection tool. "
=20
Since for me you are the one, who really added value to Harrisons
method, by taking into account the givens, as  framework for the
openness, by adding the 'Purpose' in the middle of the medicine wheel,
and above all by daring to offer OS as an ongoing method within
organizations, and to teach organizations to use it this way, may be you
understand what I am asking for. It is not only a better way of
documentation (what images of course can offer), it is the wonderful
opportunity, no, the necessity, to transport the spirit of all what
happens in Open Space first to all the senses of the participants and
then to whom it may concern.
=20
All this for me is true in every Open Space session, and I know that
people can be trained as 'transporters of spirit'. wether by drawing or
any other way. In the meantime it is a good solution to have someone
from the outside, as witness, as reciever, container, and that is what I
can offer to be.
=20
If artists use Open Space for their themes, if they explode dancing,
singing, drawing, beautiful. But that is not what I am talking about,
unless all of us are keen enough to detect the artist insides
themselves.
=20
=20
Blessings
=20
Reinhard
=20
VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE
Kuchenm=FCller & Stifel
=20
tel +39-0566-88 929
www.visuelle-protokolle.de
=20
=20
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Von: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] Im Auftrag von
Birgitt Williams
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. August 2006 14:19
An: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Betreff: Re: Working with visual artists at an Open Space
Hi Reinhard,
You know that I admire your work very much and have appreciated your
help in our workshops, and when you gave us your gifts as a visual
artist, people=92s learning ended up going much deeper through the art =
as
a wonderful reflection tool.=20
=20
What interested me in your mail to this list was your comment =93I was
hoping that your question would open a dialog I was seeking since
years.=94 If you have the energy for it, I would very much like to hear
from you regarding what you were hoping the dialogue would be. I have an
idea that you, who know OST very well, have some insights that we all
could benefit from.
=20
Blessings,
Birgitt
=20
=20
Birgitt Williams

=20
-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
Visuelle Protokolle
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:34 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: AW: Working with visual artists at an Open Space
=20
Hi Chris, and all you others,
=20
I was hoping that your question would open a dialog I was seeking since
years. Since years I am on this OS list, feeling that you and me are
seeking for the same treasure in and on similar ways.
=20
But then I get Harrison's "One caution about visual artists and other
such addendum" and ask me, and ask you: Are you, like me, an addendum to
the process of self organizing people, helping them a bit as we can with
our tools, or are you the high priests and I am the addendum?
=20
=20
Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen
best regards
=20
Reinhard
=20
VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE
Kuchenm=FCller & Stifel
=20
tel +39-0566-88 929
www.visuelle-protokolle.de
=20
=20
   _____ =20

Von: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Chris
Corrigan
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. August 2006 18:51
An: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Betreff: Working with visual artists at an Open Space
Hi mates:

I have an opportunity coming up in the fall to work with a visual artist
for an Open Space I am doing.  The clients wants us to work together and
I'm excited by the possibility, but haven't ever done that before. =20

So what kind of good stories do you have of working with visual artists
(and visual art as a modality) in Open Space.

Daniel?  Reinhardt?  Is Nancy Margulis around?  Others?

Chris

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thank you for your input dear <span
class=3DSpellE>Reinhard</span>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am having a few thoughts about =
this. The
first vision that came to mind and caused me to smile, was to have a =
well
planned OST meeting, to have no OST facilitator, and to have a visual =
facilitator
present to offer a reflection back to the people of their process. I =
then
decided I liked that image. The people would self organize and at the =
same time
would have an ongoing reflection tool so that the tool could assist them =
in
reaching into themselves and getting clearer on their thoughts and =
developing
new competencies including greater consciousness. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yesterday I read that a key role =
for
leaders today is to assist the organization in becoming conscious of =
itself.
And <span class=3DSpellE>Reinhard</span>, this made me think <span =
class=3DGramE>of<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>you</span> and your work. It is a =
way to
assist the organization, or the organization in an OST meeting, become =
more
conscious of <span class=3DGramE>itself</span>. What a great gift!<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>On this note, I am imagining the =
visual
artist at the OST meeting. The OST facilitator opens the meeting and =
introduces
the visual artist as someone who is going to capture in pictures, what =
is
happening through the day so that the client gets the benefit of the =
content
from the OST meeting plus the opportunity of a great tool for the =
organization
to become more conscious of itself in the meeting itself. I don’t =
think
it is a requirement of the visual facilitator to make a presentation. =
Unless I
am mistaken, the visual facilitator posts his/her pictures on the =
reflection
wall and people come up to this wall all day long and look and use this =
as a
form of their reflection, and getting more impulses to their ideas,
specifically right hemisphere directed ideas. And they can engage in a
discussion with the visual facilitator if they wish. That sounds pretty =
good.
Value added. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I personally love the work of =
visual
artists. I use words a lot and when I am working with an artist, the =
artist
reflects back to me what he/she heard me say and then I know if my
communication was what I meant it to be. This is a great gift to me when =
it
happens. When the communication was not captured in the way that I =
thought I
was communicating, I work at it again until the reflection back to me is =
what I
was intending. I love this as a way to have better =
communication.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Blessings,<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Birgitt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>=


<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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Williams<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Visuelle Protokolle<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August =
24, 2006
7:15 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> AW: Working with =
visual
artists at an Open Space</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Hi
Birgitt,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>you
are challenging me! So I jump into the ring, as an outsider. =
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>When
Harrison Owen used the fourfold way of Angeles Arrien to form the =
method
of Open Space, he did an ingenious job, as the world wide
distribution of the method shows every day. But =
...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Now
Open Space seems to me to be both, a method and a movement. The movement
organizes OSonOssses etc. and spreads also with amazing speed. =
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>I am
not part of the movement, but I admire the method, use it sometimes, and =
took
part as a visual facilitator (I prefer that expression to visual =
artist) 
several times, so also together with you. And since years I am a member =
of this
list serve and follow the discussions.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>So
if I am asking for a dialogue, what have I to say, and what do I =
expect?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>A
dialogue for me is different from a discussion. In a discussion =
everybody tries
to be right and convince the others, in a dialogue everybody listens and =
is
ready to learn. So I tell my story, and am curious what will =
happen.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Michael
Hermann writes:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>"
is the artist's work beautiful, interesting, magical, and more? yes, of =
course.
but what if i am a great story teller? would i ever get up and attempt =
to
'keynote' the closing circle with my own =
summation?"</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'> Of
course Michael expects everybody to cry out "of course not!" =
But I
say: WHY NOT??????  </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>For me the =
method of OS
is brilliant at its beginning, excellent in the middle, and only =
slightly
average at the end. I see no value in boaring texts, written by the =
obediant
ones. I am no friend of spoken reports of group results. Words, words, =
words. I
am missing the fire that was alive in the groups! Alive, not online, not =
typed,
to feel it with your senses! And I know, that images can help a lot =
here.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font><font color=3Dnavy =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Right now I take part in a =
project (not
OS), where the client organized 200 interviews of storytelling, done in =
pairs,
and the listening partner did write the story down. Then it was revised =
and
typed, then revised again, and now all the stories are dead and boaring! =
A true
storyteller would have used the content and would have given it a form =
to reach
people, to bring the message to the public. For me that is beautiful! =
You also
could build a scene play, dance the messages, sing them, draw them (what =
I
did).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Birgitt,
you wrote:" </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>when you gave us =
your
gifts as a visual artist, people’s learning ended up going much =
deeper
through the art as a wonderful reflection tool. =
"</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Since
for me you are the one, who really added value to Harrisons method, by =
taking
into account the givens, as  framework for the openness, by adding =
the
'Purpose' in the middle of the medicine wheel, and above all by daring =
to offer
OS as an ongoing method within organizations, and to teach organizations =
to use
it this way, may be you understand what I am asking for. It is not only =
a
better way of documentation (what images of course can offer), it is the
wonderful opportunity, no, the necessity, to transport the spirit of
all what happens in Open Space first to all the senses of the =
participants
and then to whom it may concern.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>All
this for me is true in every Open Space session, and I know that people =
can be
trained as 'transporters of spirit'. wether by drawing or any other way. =
In the
meantime it is a good solution to have someone from the outside, as =
witness, as
reciever, container, and that is what I can offer to =
be.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>If
artists use Open Space for their themes, if they explode dancing, =
singing,
drawing, beautiful. But that is not what I am talking about, unless all =
of us
are keen enough to detect the artist insides =
themselves.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Blessings</span=
></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Reinhard</span>=
</font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>VISUELLE
PROTOKOLLE</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Kuchenm=FCller
& Stifel</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>tel
+39-0566-88 929</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>www.visuelle-pr=
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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'><font
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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DDE
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:DE;font-we=
ight:
bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DDE
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:DE'> =
OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Birgitt Williams<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 23. =
August
2006 14:19<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> =
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: Working with =
visual
artists at an Open Space</span></font><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:
DE'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi =
Reinhard,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You know that I =
admire
your work very much and have appreciated your help in our workshops, and =
when
you gave us your gifts as a visual artist, people’s learning ended =
up
going much deeper through the art as a wonderful reflection tool. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What interested =
me in
your mail to this list was your comment “</span></font><font =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span style=3D'font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>I was =
hoping that
your question would open a dialog I was seeking since years.” =
</span></font><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>If you have the energy for it, I would very much like to =
hear from
you regarding what you were hoping the dialogue would be. I have an idea =
that
you, who know OST very well, have some insights that we all could =
benefit from.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Blessings,<o:p></=
o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Birgitt</span></f=
ont><font
color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-family:Verdana;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoAutoSig style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;
mso-no-proof:yes'>Birgitt Williams<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoAutoSig style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:
yes'><img width=3D252 height=3D138 id=3D"_x0000_i1026"
src=3D"cid:image001.gif at 01C6C608.9532CBD0"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Visuelle Protokolle<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 21, =
2006 2:34
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> AW: Working with =
visual
artists at an Open Space</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Hi
Chris, and all you others,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>I
was hoping that your question would open a dialog I was seeking since =
years.
Since years I am on this OS list, feeling that you and me are seeking =
for the
same treasure in and on similar ways.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>But
then I get Harrison's "</span></font><font color=3Dblack =
face=3D"Arial Narrow"><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow";color:black'>One caution about =
visual artists
and other such addendum</span></font><font color=3Dnavy =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>" and ask me, and ask you: =
Are you,
like me, an addendum to the process of self organizing people, helping =
them a
bit as we can with our tools, or are you the high priests and I am the =
addendum?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Mit
freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>best
regards</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Reinhard</span>=
</font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Kuchenm=FCller
& Stifel</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>tel
+39-0566-88 929</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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Auftrag von </span></b>Chris Corrigan<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 9. =
August 2006
18:51<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> =
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Working with =
visual
artists at an Open Space</span></font><span lang=3DDE =
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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hi mates:<br>
<br>
I have an opportunity coming up in the fall to work with a visual artist =
for an
Open Space I am doing.  The clients wants us to work together and =
I'm
excited by the possibility, but haven't ever done that before.  =
<br>
<br>
So what kind of good stories do you have of working with visual artists =
(and
visual art as a modality) in Open Space.<br>
<br>
Daniel?  Reinhardt?  Is Nancy Margulis around?  =
Others?<br
clear=3Dall>
<br>
Chris<br>
<br>
-- <br>
CHRIS CORRIGAN<br>
Consultation - Facilitation<br>
Open Space Technology<br>
<br>
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Site: <a =
href=3D"http://www.chriscorrigan.com">http://www.chriscorrigan.com</a><br=
>
Open Space Resources:  <a =
href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/r94tj">http://tinyurl.com/r94tj</a>
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