Craig

[Funda Oral]

sometimes you may not be happy with the system.
you may not trust it or understand it or like it.

trust that "life" will find its own way...keep living it

and the system will change...a flow of life will change the system

maybe simply because you're there watching it ( as facilitator or space 
holder or space opener)...maybe simply because you're part of it.

you are part of it....you are not seperate from the system or from the life.

funda

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Gilliam" <wcraiggilliam at hotmail.com>
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> To clarify--In my soul I have learned not to trust the system.  If I hear 
> Open Space and self-organizing systems, it says trust the system, that it 
> will find its own way, if it can be found.  My request is for your help in 
> my framing or getting a better handle on this issue of trust vs mistrust 
> of the system.  How do I marry, integrate, connect the two.  Thanks again, 
> Craig
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Craig Gilliam <wcraiggilliam at hotmail.com>
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> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 11:43:17 +0000
>
> Open Space and Trusting the System--
>
> A jump ball question for anyone who wants to take a swipe at it--  It 
> suddenly dawned on me that my experience and perspective has always been 
> "never trust the system."  What I think I hear from Open Space and 
> self-organizing systems is that the system will find its own way, and, 
> hopefully, before too much damage is done.  Any thoughts or clarification?
>
> Thanks,
> Craig
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>From  Sat Aug 12 08:38:11 2006
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Friends,

I'm working with a highly motivated and well-connected
planning committee toward building a "school and
community partnership" in Pottstown, PA, which is a
suburb of Philadelphia. They are dealing with
challenges of violence, high drop-out rates, substance
abuse, and crime. 

Here's the link to learn more:

http://www.pottstownschools.com/pottstown/Community%20-%20Alumni%20-%20Athletics/School%20and%20Community%20Partnership

Jennifer, to respond to your question, after I had
worked with grantwriter to make sure that open space
was part of the process, and the grant was approved:

1) I met with school superintendent and grant-writer
to outline a game plan and schedule first meeting with
planning committee which would also include district
justice, chief of police, exec director of local
mental health agency.

2) Met with 5 member planning committee to plan 1)
first open space meeting and 2) meeting with a large
group of "advisors" (mayor, president of chamber of
commerce, exec director of united way, key
philanthropists, etc) to communicate our intentions
re: open space and get their feedback on draft
invitation for the open space. meeting lasted 2 hours.

3) convened advisors--about 17 of the 21 invited were
present--to communicate intentions, get feedback on
letter and develop list of invitees for open space.
meeting lasted one hour and 15 minutes.

4) planning committee will meet one more time before
open space meeting. i expect it to be an hour and a
half meeting.

we expect first open space meeting (Sept 20th-9 am to
4 pm) will have about 80 participants and and second
one (Nov 29) could have many more.

John



--- Jennifer Hurley <JLHurley at hfadesign.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have stories about using OST for the
> purposes of evaluating a
> program?  So far, I haven't had experience "holding
> space" for something
> with that specific of an outcome.
> 
> Also, I'd love to hear advice about client meetings
> before doing an OS.  How
> much time to people typically spend meeting with or
> discussing things with
> clients before an OS?
> 
> Thanks everyone.  This list has been invaluable in
> giving me the courage to
> try these things out!
> 
> Jennifer Hurley
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>From  Sat Aug 12 16:00:26 2006
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Hi, John, et al...

While the book "Future Search in School District Change" is obviously 
designed to describe how future search has been a part of school 
district change, you will find that several of the chapters provide 
insights that may be useful as you think about using open space in your 
situation.  In particular, parts 3 and 4 focus on "Growing Community 
Partnerships" and "Beyond the District." 

The chapter I co-authored refers to a particular community partnership 
that has its origins in some future search work 15 years ago, but which 
also included Open Space meetings in the early days (Remember our friend 
Diane Bennett, Harrison?) and now the particular partnership which is 
most well developed has been using Open Space for its annual retreats 
for the last 5 years, as well as using it in other settings.

Hope this helps.

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
Columbus, Ohio

John Engle wrote:

>Friends,
>
>I'm working with a highly motivated and well-connected
>planning committee toward building a "school and
>community partnership" in Pottstown, PA, which is a
>suburb of Philadelphia. They are dealing with
>challenges of violence, high drop-out rates, substance
>abuse, and crime. 
>
>  
>

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