A Note from a Young Friend

filiz filiz at bugday.org
Tue Aug 8 01:04:53 PDT 2006


Dear Joralt,
 
In my understanding of life and humanity,
Evil is not evil for the sake of being evil
Terrorists dont become terrorists for the sake of being terrorists.
 
It all comes out of some closed, oppressed space. 
There is only chance and hope in opening space and hearts and inviting
to witness one another. 
 
Peace,
filiz
 
-----Original Message-----
From: joralt [mailto:joralt at netvision.net.il] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:53 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: A Note from a Young Friend
 
Hello to all
I am new in this place. I joined the list after discovering recently the
concept of OST and ever since I am studying this idea with it's many
possibilities and connotations.
As an artist I couldn't ignore the many similarities between some of the
ideas of OST and the opening of space for the creative flow within a
framework of art making be it a painting, a poem, apiece of sculpture
etc.
But since it is a time of war I thought to write few words about the
negative connotations of opening space without realizing how denials of
evil intent open the gap in opposition to any good intent of loving
people everywhere.
Reading some of your letters here regarding the war between Lebanon and
Israel I couldn't not notice how much some of you seem to disregard the
power of opening space for bad intent if not plain old evil.
How about opening space for stupidity of the western cultures who still
disregard the bad intent of the militant Islam that despises  most of
what the western cultures regard as good and valuable?
How about opening space for deceits and evasions of the European
countries that allow their business corporations to sell any lethal
knowledge that turns out to be the weapons that are used to instigate
terrorists activities around the globe?
What about the Lebanese government that opened space for murderous
intent of the Hezbollah ?
Why do you think that space is limited only to love and good? Isn't
space unlimited by definition?
Where did you got the idea that disregarding evil intent by denying it's
existence will not open space in direct proportion to the force with
which it is being denied?
Opening space for evil (knowingly or not) is nothing new and it has
always created the gap that feeds on the denials of people of good
intent everywhere.
It is not enough to open space for good intent. You must accept
responsibility for your own denials that you throw into the gap in
superstitious belief that if you dispose of your bad intent by denying
it into the gap you will not have to face it one day.
Well, the day has arrived and guess what? Most of you in the free
western society will have to face how ludicrous is your belief that
terrorists will sit with you in open space circles and allow you the
freedom of doing things in your own way.
Do you believe that perhaps opening space with Bin Laden could have
prevented the attack on the WTC? 
All the best
Josef from Tel Aviv
 
 
 
 
 
Josef Ralt
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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Argene
Carswell
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:25 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: A Note from a Young Friend
 
 Harrison and Jon,
 
A personal note of thanks for your notes. I recently returned from
Beirut (less than two weeks before the conflict). When I read your
emails tonight, I had just completed one of my own to one of my Lebanese
colleagues, and was feeling quite helpless. In fact, I have felt quite
helpless over the past few weeks as I communicate with my Lebanese
colleagues and friends by phone and email.
 
Jon, your words regarding demonstrating "huge respect" and the power of
just "connecting" brought such comfort at this moment. It makes me think
that what I offer my Lebanese friends just might have some real value
after all. And while it does not involve a typical open space and large
circles - I hope that as I try to exhalt THEM, and connect with passion,
"maybe human love can be seen at its highest" - even if just for a
fleeting moment.
 
Harrison, I now feel less helpless. And I know you are right, the fever
has to run its course - it is sometimes just so hard when it hits so
close.
 
Many thanks,
 
Argene
 
Carswell and Associates
1235 Jefferson Davis Highway
Suite 1600, #141
Arlington, VA 22202
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: hhowen at adelphia.net
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Sent: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: A Note from a Young Friend
Jon -- thanks for the note. I presume you also meant this for OSLIST, so
I will send onwards.
 
ho
 
Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Dr.
Potomac, MD  20854
USA
301-365-2093
207-763-3261 (summer)
website www.openspaceworld. <http://www.openspaceworld.com> com
Personal Website www.ho-image. <http://www.ho-image.com> com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jon Harvey
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To: Harrison Owen <javascript:parent.ComposeTo('hhowen at verizon.net');>  
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: A Note from a Young Friend
 
Thank you for sharing that with us, Harrison.

It has never been more important than now to create the spaces for
people to
come together, and through dialogue, be reminded that we are all human
and
what joins us is so much much more than what divides us. Like Dania I
sometimes despair and hear with disbelief the vacuuous statements by our
so
called leaders. But then I get back in my saddle - believing that if I
can
help just two people to really hear and listen to each other - and
rediscover their common humanity - then it is still worth carrying on.

So - here's to large circles and deep listening, wide openness and huge
respect! Defragging the world may take time - but we can get there!

"Only connect! That was the whole of her sermon. Only connect the prose
and
the passion, and both will be exalted, and human love will be seen at
its
highest. Live in fragments no longer" (E M Forster)

Jon Harvey
Oxford, UK



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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]On Behalf Of
Harrison
Owen
Sent: 07 August 2006 15:28
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
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Subject: A Note from a Young Friend


Some of you may remember that during the Congress of Rabbis and Imans I
met
a wounderful young lady from Indonesia. I heard from her again today and
thought our exchange might have some relevance for OSLIST.

Dania wrote:

Dear Mr. Owen,
How are you? I'm Dania from Indonesia. I was a participant of the world
congress of Imams and Rabbis for Peace in Seville, Spain, as a student
of
Children of Abraham. I met you there. I hope you're still remember me
Mr. Owen, I'm very concerned about the war between Hezbollah and Israel
in
Lebanon.. I read the news about it everywhere. Yesterday,  I found a
newspaper on my boss' desk. I stole it (hihihihi) while she was having
lunch
and read the news about Hezbollah and Israel. People died in Lebanon,
most
of them are children and old people. They bombed houses, buildings.. oh
my
God, I couldn't stand read it. I saw the news on the TV, too. They
showed
the picture of the victims in lebanon, the children, the amunitions,
people
suffered...
On my way back home from the office, I turned my radio on and heard the
news
about Hezbollah and Israel (again and again and again!).after the news,
they
played one of my favourite songs, Imagine, sang by 2 singers, an arabic
man
and a french woman. they sang the song in 3 languages: arabic, french,
and
english. it was beautiful. i've heard this song many times, but when I
heard
it yesterday, I cried.. I was very upset about this war and all. whjat
is
wrong with this world?? why do they do that? what for? Can't they stop
the
war, make peace, and live happily together? what's wrong with peace? why
do
they reject peace? what do they want now? when is it going to be over?
Can we do something to stop the war, Mr. Owen? Me, you, and the Imams
and
Rabbis who attended the congress in Seville? Can we take action? What
can we
do to stop the war? what can we do to make them realize that war won't
do
any good?
I can't find any answer for these questions.. I feel hopeless.
 Dania

I replied:
Of course I remember you! And with great affection!! As for Hezbollah
and
Isreal. . . I am afraid that this may be one of those times in Human
history
when all the things we should done and did not, along with all the
things we
should not have done and did -- now come due. It is rather like the
situation when we do not take care of our health and suddenly we find
that
we have a bad infection and a fever. That fever will now run it's
course.
Sooner or later it will break but whether that break occurs before major
damage has been done, or after, remains to be seen. Being a Human Being
is a
constant learning process, and sometimes that learning can be very
painful.
But the greatest tragedy would be not to learn. So for my self, I feel
neither helpless nor hopeless. To be sure I do not have the power to
separate Israel and Hezbollah, nor do I think that those who may think
they
have the power (Presidents, Kings, Imams, Rabbis, etc) could do any
better.
And even if they were to be successful in Lebanon -- the underlying
causes
would remain, and the fever would break out again. So what to do?
Speaking
only for my self, I intend to keep opening space so that wonderful
people
such as you can experience that "playground" (as you called it) in which
real people with real differences can meet each other with respect. And
if
you are looking for something to do right now -- you could try the same
thing.

God Luck! And thank you for remembering me!!

Harrison



Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Dr.
Potomac, MD  20854
USA
301-365-2093
207-763-3261 (summer)
website www.openspaceworld. <http://www.openspaceworld.com> com
Personal Website www.ho-image. <http://www.ho-image.com> com

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