Edinburgh festival.. an Open space event
Vliex, Carla (cvl)
CVL at tg.nl
Mon Apr 10 12:06:48 PDT 2006
Thanks Chris and Harrison.
The site chris mailed to me was great and interesting. One of my business clients wants a day out with his whole staff. Thin k I am going to advise him to invite everyone of his comoany for a potlatch...
Carla
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Van: OSLIST namens Chris Corrigan
Verzonden: ma 10-4-2006 18:31
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Onderwerp: Re: Edinburgh festival.. an Open space event
Here's some information on potlatches held around here:
http://collections.ic.gc.ca/potlatch/
Cheers,
Chris
On 4/9/06, Vliex, Carla (cvl) <CVL at tg.nl> wrote:
Being not a native speaker and getting quite curious: WHAT IS A POTLATCH??
Carla from the Netherlands
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Van: OSLIST namens Harrison Owen
Verzonden: do 6-4-2006 13:38
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Onderwerp: Re: Edinburgh festival.. an Open space event
I guess I must have attended a rogue Potlatch - but they do some funny things in Alaska.
Harrison
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Subject: Re: Edinburgh festival.. an Open space event
Just a technical piece...potlatches are about as far from Open Space as you can imagine. They are highly structured and controlled events and there is very little tolerance for anything that lies outside of the control of the people that are responsible for given parts of the ceremonies. In fact, working here on the west ocast of North America, where the feasting culture is integral to traditional forms of governance, using Open Space sometimes becomes a real challenge.
On the other hand, most people i work with who stop to think about it agree that Open Space resonates on a deeper level and taps something that seems to lie at the heart of many different traditional and indigenous cultures.
But potlatches...woowhee...they would drive you around the bend, Harrison!
Chris
On 4/5/06, Harrison Owen < hhowen at verizon.net <mailto: hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net> > > wrote:
Diane -- Surprise! And guess where a major part of the inspiration for Open
Space came from? Indigenous Market places! All of which work pretty much the
same was as a Potlatch. Same old, same old :-)
Harrison
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Subject: Re: Edinburgh festival.. an Open space event
Chris's comment resonated for me. Our family has had some wonderful
weekends centered around an indigenous pow wow. Usually it's a full
weekend - sleep over two nights - and there are lots of things going on
-- food vendors, arts and crafts vendors, children's games, always the
circle in the center, drumming much of the time, dances of many sorts,
great ceremonial dress, some or all dances open to all (some for
skilled dancers only), story telling, flute playing, sometimes sweat
lodges, sometimes workshops on healing/spiritual topics or on making
things, and nothing requires attendance! Many people sit around their
campsites, sleep, talk at picnic tables, swim in the river where that's
an option, take care of kids -- oh yes, all ages are welcome and are
there, with a lot of honor for elders (much appreciated by this
grandmother) and for veterans (something I was on the fence about - but
my husband was in the Navy for 4 years in the Vietnam era, and it means
so much to him to dance in the veterans' honoring dance, and I get to
join him.... so I've warmed to it). Many people camp out in tents and
trailers, so we live together for the weekend, and the cost is minimal.
There's plenty of room for offering what you want to offer, if not in a
more formal way, then via your own campsite and conversations there or
as you walk around. (I'm sure if you hang a flag at your campsite about
your topic, you'll attract some interest!) The place-basedness of it,
and all the preparation that goes into it on the part of the tribe or
tribes or individuals that organize it (they usually include one free
feast, and often a give-away), seem core to the sense of deep
satisfaction people get from going to these weekends. I think it's very
close to Open Space!
Diane Brandon
Eliot, Maine
On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Chris Weaver wrote:
> on a related large other topic, i am deeply interested in the overlap
> between ost and ceremony in indigenous traditions. festival life,
> which
> culminates on a specific piece of land for a specific period of time,
> has
> some fascinating resonance with ceremonial space/time. a topic to
> explore
> another time.
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