A Book?

Michael Herman mjherman at gmail.com
Thu Jan 27 11:07:18 PST 2005


yes yes yes...  working too hard and already there.  one option is to
paste them all into a word doc and tid;y them up, then pdf them into a
downloadable file that could be posted alongside the user's non guide,
which harrson never seems to remember is not the "non-user's guide"
...big grin... and peggy could certainly word-into-pdf here responses.
 OR, these could be the beginning of a new sort of archive at the
already existing http://www.openspaceworld.net wiki space.  of course,
these are also already archived and browsable in the archives, as
well.  so doing even less would be okay, too.  if anyone wanted to do
more with these, could always start in the wiki space and then pdf
them.  michael


On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:31:40 -0500, Harrison Owen <hhowen at comcast.net> wrote:
> Lucus et al --
>
> I think we are making a relatively simple task much more complicated than it
> need be. Working much too hard, so to speak. My thought when I suggested
> this to Doug was simply that since he had asked the question, "What does it
> mean to live in Open Space?" he might think about assembling all those
> replies in the order of appearance on OSLIST -- and editing out other themes
> that popped up (delightfully) along the way. There is no need to write any
> material (of course he could if he wanted.) Nor is there any need to decide
> which among the multiple replies are "suitable." They all are! -- After all
> somebody cared enough to post them!! Once done the whole great opus should
> find a happy home on www.openspaceworld.org (Michael Herman -- Where are
> you?)
>
> Now that I think about it, Peggy Holman might feel called upon to do the
> same thing for all of the postings that showed up following her question
> from Juanita Brown of World Café fame. Peggy we're calling :-)!! After all,
> Peggy and Doug posted their passion on this great Electronic Bulletin Board,
> and we all know what happens when you do that in Open Space. Remember? You
> are simultaneously accepting the responsibility to make a report! Although
> in this case you don't have to write a word.
>
> This really isn't new of course -- Michael Herman and Chris Corrigan did
> basically the same thing with the "Non-User's Guide." Anybody can read it,
> and print it out if they care to. And a lot of people have. Traveling around
> the world I have seen any number of well-thumbed copies. As a matter of fact
> I would bet that more copies of the Non-User's Guide have been printed,
> distributed and read than any number of similar sorts of books coming out of
> "real" publishing houses -- my own books included.
>
> And when we come to the whole question of Public Domain -- there is no
> question. OSLIST is, and always has been, completely in The Public Domain,
> even as Open Space Technology is totally free and available to anybody who
> cares to use it. But, as I have been at pains to say ever since, the free
> gift of Open Space carries with it the responsibility (cost) of freely
> sharing what we have all been learning. OSLIST is a great repository of all
> that shared learning -- freely given and free for the use of anybody who
> cares.
>
> Harrison
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lucas
> Gonzalez
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:56 AM
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> Subject: Re: How do you live in open space?
>
> A book might be written cooperatively using, just as an example,
> mediawiki + primarilypublicdomain + some software used to make things
> easier.
>
> 1) Mediawiki is the software behind http://www.wikipedia.org and can be
> used for the purpose of creating such a "book".  If participants here
> would care to cooperatively create an index, then fill it in with
> messages taken from the list or with original/new contributions ...  it
> might be done.  Then of course, people might also use their two feet to
> go somewhere else.  One unpredictable issue is How many people would
> participate?  A small self-organised team might go for a small project,
> and scale up if more people e-congregate.
>
> There are other things different from Mediawiki.  The OST community has
> long had wikis - that could be used to try the book idea out.
>
> 2) Primarily Public Domain http://www.primarilypublicdomain.org means
> "public domain except noted".  We can't assume past postings in this
> list are like that, so Editors would have to ask permission to each
> contributor whose contributions to the list are used in the "book".
> Maybe there could be a "policy change" from now on, and state that
> postings to this list are "public domain except noted".  All my
> postings here are like that, so no need to ask me!
>
> 3) There's a computer program (for those who like such details, it's a
> Perl script) that makes it easy to download all the messages in a
> yahoogroup.  I would think a similar thing could be done with OSLIST,
> if and only if someone is interested in having all the messages in
> their local computers to fish some threads and compose some chapters.
>
> Any other issues worth considering for such a task?  We may all walk
> around the idea, touching it with a very long stick, and pretending
> we're not really interested.  But comments might help those with enough
> passion about the idea to, maybe, try it out.  (No, not me.)
>
> In fact, I'd think we're much more interested in "helping write
> reality", so to speak.
>
> Lucas
>
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