On self-organizing

Harrison Owen hhowen at comcast.net
Tue Feb 15 05:25:52 PST 2005


Masud -- I know the devil made me do it -- but when I saw your words, "For
instance, do we give more respect to "non-living" weapons systems or to
living "human systems"?" -- I found myself answering, "Human Systems, of
course, at least usually -- but what happens when the human systems are in
fact weapons systems? And where do you draw the line between them anyhow?

Harrison

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Sheikh
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Subject: Re: On self-organizing

Filiz Telek wrote:
>Masud,
>
>I guess you are referring TV as non-living in the physical sense...well,
>doesn't it all depend on how we define living versus non-living? :)
>Maybe I am taking your comment too literally...but here are some quotes
>that might be interesting...
>
Thank you for the quotes, Filiz. You are right that I am talking only
about the physical TV set. And my comment that "perhaps I understand" was
related to the sort of quotes that you gave.

Of course, in one sense, "humans never die". Buried or cremated, they
change form, and in some way, feed the new cycle of life.

But does not there need to be a difference bertween the way we "treat"
living systems vs "non-living" systems? For instance, do we give more
respect to "non-living" weapons systems or to living "human systems"?
Masud

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