The Question and an open identity that doesnt understand the biggest question

Sat Feb 5 01:47:20 PST 2005

Maybe I alliterate too far. But firstly thanks : I love Harrison's In
Search of Question before Search of Excellence - don't know if Tom
Peter's is still an epicenter of conversation but if so in an age where
search is virtually the most valued process to begin any organisational
or network learning then we should find a way to build/interact the
search dialogue

In similar if opposite vein, I have just read what I regard as one of
the most error-ridden articles ever written in the name of Open & of
Democracy & of understanding what globalisation as systems connecting 6
billion beings spins. Of course, sitting, as I am, in London where
Mandela -see www.makepovertyhistory.org has been breathing extraordinary
Oxygen the last 2 days just makes me wretch more at Hilton's supersavvy
style. Perhaps I have got the wrong end of the question stick, (wither
way I guess I'll see what opens up)

BACKGROUND -did OPenDemocracy.net just foot all open people in the foot?

To publish an article that concludes any USA problems of state are only
ones that impact itself, and to use the headline it does below seem
anti-Truemajority Of Ben, and either the dimmest thing opendemocracy has
ever done, or if its be jointly staged to make a huge conversation then
smart if people get it that way)

Chris Macrae, wcbn007 at easynet.co.uk http://whynotworld.blogspot.com/

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From: openDemocracy at openDemocracy.net
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Sent: 04 February 2005 18:07
To: chris macrae
Subject: Ben & Jerry's anti-Americanism

newsletter opener: Now in www.openDemocracy.net

 Down with anti-Americanism!

Anti-Americanism has become a pathetic Ben & Jerry's brand: obsessive,
conformist and hypocritical. Dominic Hilton lets rip. A provocative,
witty essay (3,700 words)

article link http://www.opendemocracy.net/debates/article-3-77-2325.jsp

forum link
http://www.opendemocracy.net/forums/thread.jspa?forumID=87&threadID=4388
0&messageID=57901&start=0&#57901

Holding Reply inserted into forum by Chris Macrae

I would say that both America and Dominic are entering that state of
denial where everyone else starts praying they learn to change in time.
Specifically I pity Dominic for his conclusion America's problems are
mainly its own. The world's biggest system problem is a compounding one
that goes under various neighbouring technical names but google
economics of externalities and that will start you up. One way to
interpret this term is your home system knows something is risky and
even life critical but over time determines to compound all the risks of
death onto a foreign people's or place. This strategy was invented (or
has become most common) in America and has become legally constituted
into the way that some of America's largest powers measure what they do
quarter after quarter as the documentary (by a lawyer)
www.thecorporation.com demonstrates. Unless we universally abolish
externalities economics we will have: at best increasing incidences of
global slavery, and worst increasing Tsunami's and Iraqs and far worse.
And because its constitutionalised into America's big management
systems, unlike it is in any other country, America has become the
leading destruction agent with the weapon of externalities. That is why
the rest of the world does pray that America learns to desist in time
because networks/globalisation have made some aspects of state
separability unsafe- on stuff like abolition of externalities and of
policies that compound extreme foreign poverty, globalisation is but one
interconnecting system that unites 6 billion beings, and drawing
boundaries around any state, but most of all the superpowerful, one is
the most dangerous ignorance any writer or media conversationalist could
spread

chris macrae http://whynotworld.blogspot.com/

How Dominic Hilton's article concluded:

When President Bush declares how, "In a world moving towards liberty, we
are determined to show the meaning and promise of liberty," we should
let him get on with it, and try dusting off our own promises. America is
not the panacea, nor is it the devil. Our problems are generally our
problems. The world would do well to be a little more like America, a
tad more insular, self-involved. Non-Americans love to quote John
Kennedy's famous call, "And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your
country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." Why? It
is the second part of Kennedy's couplet we should heed and let roll off
our tongues: "My fellow citizens of the world, ask not what America will
do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." This
still stands. And freedom, like charity, discipline and intelligence,
begins at home.

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hi friends.

i just received a report from colleagues in haiti about their Schools Alive!
initiative, which aims to bring lots of educators together in Open Space on
the theme: “How can we achieve a type of teaching in the classroom which
will produce non-violent, self-driven, and eager learners?” Here's the
beginning of the report and a link:

The Schools Alive! Initiative

Third Open Space Meeting

High Delmas, 29 January 2005

In an effort to serve as catalyst for the improvement of the quality of
education in Haiti, the Limyè Lavi Foundation, together with GALO (Action
Group for Peace and Autonomy) has created the Schools Alive! Initiative. Its
third meeting using the Open Space method was held on Saturday, 29 January
2005 at the Printing Shop on the Methodist Campus in Jacquet Toto. Several
schools from the high-Delmas community (a total of 49 participants) were
represented at the meeting, including: Complexe Educative, Ecole Fraternité,
Ecole Emmanuel Cion, etc... In addition, several participants traveled long
distances to attend this meeting, including teachers from the Lagonav AJPDG
network and the Anacaona High School in Leoganne. A total of 29 different
schools and organizations were represented.

to read more go to

http://www.openspaceworld.org/network/wiki.cgi?SchoolsAliveThirdMeeting

john

http://JohnEngle.blogspot.com - Reflections about Haiti, life, and our work.
http://JohnEngle.info
http://TheExperiment.info

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