An OS "critique" and response
Tim Weidman
neverness at cox.net
Fri Aug 26 21:56:56 PDT 2005
i would love to know what group methods these int/sd community members
consider 2t
On Aug 26, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Karen Sella wrote:
> Brilliant, Peggy!
>
> Thank you for taking the time to respond so generously and graciously
> to Steve Banks. I completely agree with you.
>
> For some time, I have offered the perspective that OS is
> “2nd-tier“---the principles of OS transcending and including all the
> potential 1st-tier interactions---to others in the Integral/SDi
> community who share this misconception that OS is a “green” method.
> I have also introduced several “Integral/SDi” folks to Open Space as
> a practical method congruent with 2nd-tier thinking that allows people
> to more readily embody/enact 2nd-tier, even convening a few Open Space
> events on their behalf, and I’m happy to say that some folks seem to
> “get it,” even though there are still others who maintain that OS is
> “green.”
>
> One theory I have about this misconception in the realm of integral is
> that most of the folks within the Integral/SDi communities who
> maintain that OS is “green” have either not experience Open Space or
> they have experienced Open Space where the center of gravity of the
> group in the room is green and the “integral” folks in the room are
> confusing the state/stage of the people in the room with the method…
> i.e. the fact that folks may be primarily embodying green during an
> Open Space event does not mean that the Open Space method is green,
> just like “Spiral Wizards” tailoring their interactions for the
> predominately green consciousness of an audience, does not mean that
> they, the Spiral Wizards, are operating from green consciousness…
>
> In any case, suffice it to say that I really appreciate reading your
> wonderfully articulated and educated written response.
>
> Warm regards,
> Karen
>
>
> Karen Sella
> www.luminacoaching.com
> 206.780.2998
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Peggy Holman
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 2:55 PM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: An OS "critique" and response
>
> Hhmmmm, I notice the attachments aren't attached. Here are links
> instead:
>
> From Steve Banks:
> http://www.opencirclecompany.com/FromOpenSpaceToIntegralSpace.doc
>
>
> My response: http://www.opencirclecompany.com/IntegralOpenSpace.doc
>
> still sunny in Seattle,
> Peggy
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Peggy Holman
>> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 2:00 PM
>> Subject: [OSLIST] An OS "critique" and response
>>
>> My friend, Tom Atlee, sent me the attached doc, From Open
>> Space...egral Space.doc, by Steve Banks. It struck me as so
>> misinformed and error filled that I responded with Integral Open
>> Space.doc.
>>
>> Thought you might find both the impressions of a neophyte and my
>> response of interest.
>>
>> from sunny Seattle,
>> Peggy
>>
>> ________________________________
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>>
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