Stalking the Wild Pendulum- was a tasty =?koi8-r?Q?=22?=taster=?koi8-r?Q?=22=20?=OST meeting--Raffi

[Raffi Aftandelian]

Hi Paul!

Thanks for picking up on this thread fragment. You just very well may motivate me to pick up Stalking the Wild Pendulum from where I left off.

I have had a hard time reading the book and have many questions. I was rather hoping that the listserv might serve as a resource in helping me find answers to the questions that arose.

As for the walking through walls bit, while I have trouble imagining myself or anyone else walking through walls. Are there not people alive who do do that or claim to do that?

One step towards my belief that that is possible :

Yesterday, I had someone over as a guest whose "hum" is so intense, so full when he comes into contact with certain people (for example, me) that as he put it "sparks fly." It was really a rather overwhelming experience. While he did not stay the night, I still feel him at my home right now. Part of him is still here.

I have trouble making a direct logical link between walking thru walls and yesterday's experience, but I believe there is a connection.

Keep up the nudging, Paul!

Warmly,
Raffi

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> When  you  use  a  super-microscope  on  matter  you  find that at the
> micro-level there is in fact no such thing as "matter", rather all you
> have is a field of energy, lots of space.
>
>
> Raffi,
>
> Herein Mr. Bentov was somewhat inaccurate (I read that book at least 20 years ago, maybe more, so my recall is very clouded), there have been advances since his time in understanding.  Dancing Wu Li Masters among them (Zukav).  There is such a thing as matter.  What there is, is something deciding what YOU want it to be, particles (matter) or waves (energy).  The observer and the observed are in a dance together at that level.  There have been some quite marvelous and disconcerting experiments relating to consciousness and the particle/wave form, specifically the slit experiments, which I'll have to find again so I get it right, if your interested.  There has also been some marvelous work on the nature of the photon, also disconcerting to many who were look for hard little billiard balls of matter.
>
> Stalking the Wild Pendulum has a number of very interesting ideas in it but........we don't much operate at the quantum level in our ordinary lives.  Not saying our minds don't, but the skin bag of bones and flesh I call "me" doesn't, so I don't get too concerned about it, yet.  I'm not able to pass through walls yet by raising my vibratory level to slip between the cracks in the continuum.  I think we are pretty well grounded in this reality while we are alive.  Haven't seen any bodies levitating thru the air lately, either.  Fantasy is wonderful but it is just that, fantasy, so far in our evolution.
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> OS isn't fantasy, it is definitely spiritual and incredibly releasing for those used to the strictures of the usual meeting.  Its power arises from the collective wisdom of the small groups making their own choices.  Radical thought, that.  Anyway, you already know all that so I'll stop.  Guess I'll re-read Bentov and see what I think 20 or 25 years later.  btw, his little drawings were delightful.



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