OS and ethics

Funda Oral fundaokan at superonline.com
Mon Sep 6 04:02:52 PDT 2004


"Seeing us (os-folks) as doing something esp. valuable and deciding who to
give it to and who not to I see a big danger in that thought. Even the idea
of 'helping others to transform' includes the own judgment that the state
they are in now is not okay and they should change. And it seems to include
seeing oneself on a 'higher' level. And that is something to be very careful
about, too."

Dear Marei,

This is also a challenge for me.....do the (my) right thing ....only for
(my) responsibilities
and not for "my ego" or not for (my) physical/psychological needs.

Still I must act, talk and live

Sometimes it is very dangerous also to say "us (os-folks)" or "me" or
"my"....but we also have to say that with responsibility
because we exist somehow.

And we shape the world with choices and decisions we make or we don't make.

And when it's the right time I guess it is also ok "to be proud of
something", "to share a success" of course without taking
others'space

Anyway, it is hard to explain but I just wanted to say;

yes to..."being sensual" but without being afraid of living, experiencing,
playing your role openely, by being yourself as Harrison mentioned
somewhere,

finding and defining "your" "my" "our" space again and again

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marei Kiele" <MareiKiele at web.de>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: OS and ethics


> Hi folks, this is strange:
>
> I have been reading all these mails on 'os and ethics' today catching up
on this list again. And with every mail I became more astonished because the
first sentence that came to my mind has not yet been written. Okay, now I
do:
>
> "Whoever comes is the right people."
>
> Is that not the first principle?
>
> To me it is my job as a facilitator to make clear what my work / what open
space is about. Like inviting others to my session. And then: Be prepared to
be surprised - and open up to who comes. I thought open space is about
letting go all these "should have's, could have's and would have's" and
dealing with what is happening. Not only in an OST-meeting but in daily life
as well. And I deeply trust that - knowing what it is about - whoever wants
to do an open space is the right people.
>
> Can I imagine a group of people who's main interest is taking away others
space wanting to do their work in open space (and is that not somehow what
all the given "bad" examples are about?). At the moment: No, I can't. But if
this happened - can I imagine how I would respond to such a request? At this
moment: No I can't. Because I am NOT in that situation NOW.
>
> I am dealing with my permanent daily decisions and the 'ethics' they are
based upon. To develop my consciousness as Funda pointed out. And the more I
am in contact with that the more I can trust myself to do whatever feels
right at a given moment in the future in whatever situation I may be part
of. And then - being asked (= when it starts) - it will be the right time to
decide.
>
> I feel a bit like a lawyer in her pleading fighting for the freedom of my
client: open space. I admit I am self-nominated.
>
> Marei
>
>
> Part II:
>
> I wrote the first part of this mail yesterday sitting in a park in Berlin
with my laptop and could not sent it immediately. On my way back by bike I
wondered why I had gotten so emotional and to be true even somehow agressive
(this is what I then realized). And as my getting agressive always has to do
with the feeling of not enough space I asked myself "Why did I have the
feeling my space was shrinking?" Here is my answer:
>
> In this discussion about 'ethics' I smelt some odour of moral superiority
(and as you can guess I am sensual to that smell because I know it from
myself). May only be my nose but I did and this is what I reacted to. Seeing
us (os-folks) as doing something esp. valuable and deciding who to give it
to and who not to - I see a big danger in that thought. Even the idea of
'helping others to transform' includes the own judgment that the state they
are in now is not okay and they should change. And it seems to include
seeing oneself on a 'higher' level. And that is something to be very careful
about, too.
>
> That is all for the moment. Looking forward to your responses.
>
> Marei
>
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