SV: Large audio files??

Wed May 19 03:38:27 PDT 2004

Thomas

I guess you've already tried all this:
http://www.positivesharing.com/journal/00000405.htm

Specifically, "mono, not stereo".  Maybe some other details like
quality, compression, etc.

I'm not sure if you can do that on an already recorded file - but it
should be possible.  Maybe the "try-then-buy" version is limitted in
that respect?

Maybe we can look for some external utility (free and for your
operating system), to further compress the file(s).  Google "wav mp3
convert free download windows" (or your operating system), I guess.

Lucas
(born in Göteborg, btw - but I can't speak Swedish)

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>From  Wed May 19 13:06:35 2004
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Subject: Re: OST as an "halfway technology"
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It seemes to me that in what you write hear OST is more "a gateway" then
a a halfway"
T

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
Harrison Owen
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:54 PM
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Subject: Re: OST as an "halfway technology"

I knew I was going to get in trouble when I wrote this one. But there
was
some sort of purpose. For fairly obvious reason, I would be the last
person
to deny the power and utility of OS -- and I really cannot quibble with
its
completeness. Surely it has a beginning, middle and end. What pushed me,
however, was some concern about our objectives. Why do an OS? Obviously
there are multiple answers, all valid in their own domain. Such things
as a)
Having a better meeting. b) Energizing an organization. c) Building a
strategic plan. d) Designing a new product. e)etc, etc. All useful and
good,
I am sure. But why do we REALLY do it? My answer to this one would be --
to
enable folks to see themselves as they really are, and fully appreciate
their wholeness. When, if, or as that happens   -- there is no need for
Open
Space, and it becomes quite clear that OST was just a step along the
way. In
a word -- a halfway technology.

It was in this context that I found my self wondering whether there were
some things that we did (or did not do) that stood in the way of what
(for
me) was the ultimate objective.

ho

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Judi
Richardson
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: OST as an "halfway technology"

Hello Harrison and all,

I have not read all the replies to Harrison's posting as I received the
initial posting and printed it off to take with me as I travelled to
Open
Space for an international conference on Globalization.

I am responding to your posting now that 140 participants have generated
40
topics and moved to their groups.  A teacher arrived last minute with 30
high school students -- and, as always, they add amazing things to the
group.  I shall catch up on the replies to your posting upon my return.

I was curious at the Halfway Technology statement and

I see OST as a complete process.  We, as human beings, are here to
evolve.
For a point in time, people agree to gather, to suspend disbelief around
some principles and one law.  In your posting, Harrison, you eluded that
we
do this just to be what we already are.  I consider the objective mirror
of
OST -- time out of time -- as a chance to see ourselves as we are -- and
once we do that we have to change.  I would love it if people see some
of
the habitual patterns they develop -- and drop those to become more of
what
we are -- fearlessly.

Who am I to have the audacity to expect the group to go further?  It is
their process.  It is up to their passion and responsbility to go
further.

You state, Harrison, that it would seem that OST is not to be
considered.
Why beat the drum of what we don't want?  I find more and more who want
to
explore the OST process -- in training and in practice.  I facilitated
OST
for 38 B. Ed. students once and they started doing their presentations
with
OST -- no training -- worked myself right out of a job there!

My wanting more for an organization would be "closing space" -- what
right
do I have to project my disappointment on their process?  I see my work
to
build a relationship to the process, to the space, the form, in building
the
container as the content belongs to the group.

OST - for however long is a snapshot in time in the evolution process --
time out of time, out of habitual patterns, embracing creative tension.
I
sat up last night with participants from Uganda, Zimbabwe, Australia,
LeSotho, Canada and the US who wanted to ask questions and play with
participatory processes.

When I finish here I'm off to Toronto to facilitate a change process for
an
institution including a one and one-half day OST.  The next week I am
opening space for Aboriginal Fisheries Works in the Department of
Fisheries
and Oceans.  And in the moment we close the space -- it is a full
technology -- complete, perfect in its imperfection!

And for now I see a few coffee cups to pick up! <grin>

with deep appreciation for the reflection and looking forward to reading
others responses!

Judi
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>From  Wed May 19 13:39:30 2004
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My solution was (you will not believe this) to put the long recorded file on CD and then read the CD with mp3 to the computer,...I hope it makes any sense to you Thomas. Now I have it both in short mp3 version (10MB) and the long original one....
We keep going, and kicking (welcome Marei - you are so amazing!)
This feels so nice
Hugs
Tova

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-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Herrmann
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:03 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Large audio files??

Dear readers and others
IÂ´m wondering if it is a problem, but recently learnt that asking stupid
questions is not dangerous... (thanks Marei).
My audiofile of a few pages added up to 105 Mb and I also heard that Tovas
was really large. In total that would be a couple of thousand Mb. Just
wanted to highlight this, if it might be a problem.

I used the suggested software and the file type is "Wave-sound".
Warmest regards from a windy Sweden
Thomas

> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> FrÃ¥n: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]FÃ¶r Michael Herman
> Skickat: den 19 maj 2004 02:45
> Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Ã„mne: Re: Audio Book Status and where to put'em
>
>
> status, as noted below.  new software just arrived.  soon soon.  thanks!
>
>
>
> Alexander Kjerulf wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Things have been a little quiet on the audio book front lately. You see,
> > I'm currently planning Denmarks first conference on happiness at work,
> > which is May 27, so as you can imagine, I'm pretty busy. The conference
> > will be amazing though, and even though you probably can't read it (it's
> > in danish), try taking a look at the conference website here:
> > http://www.arbejdsglaede.nu.
> >
> > But here's the current status on the audio book:
> > Chapter 1: Tova Averbuch - Finished reading
> > Chapter 1: Thomas Herrmann - Finished reading
> > Chapter 1: Genevieve Treille - Finished reading
> > Chapter 2: BJ Peters - Finished reading
> > Chapter 2: Joelle Lyons Everett - Finished reading
> > Chapter 4: Christy Lee-Engel - Finished reading
> > Chapter 4: Lucas Gonzalez - Finished reading
> > Chapter 5: Karen Gorrin - Will read soon
> > Chapter 5: Avner Haramati - Will read soon
> > Chapter 6: Chris Corrigan
> > Chapter 6: Michael Herman - Will read soon
> > Chapter 7: Judith Richardson
> > Chapter 7: Audrey Coward - Finished reading
> > Chapter 8: Mikk Sarv - Finished reading
> > Chapter 8: Brendan MacKeague - Finished reading
> >
> > I'm still waiting for Harrisons publisher to tell me, where they want
> > the files placed, but I was thinking that we might go ahead and find a
> > temporary place untill then. Any suggestions where that might be? Then
> > when the publisher finds a place, we can either move the files there or
> > host them in both places.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > --
> > www.arbejdsglaede.nu - 27. maj 2004
> > Danmarks fÃ¸rste konference om arbejdsglÃ¦de
> >
> > Alexander Kjerulf
> > alexander at kjerulf.com
> > http://www.positivesharing.com
> >
> > +45 2688 2373
> > Arena, Norrebrogade 14B, 1. sal
> > 2200 Copenhagen N.
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