Is there a need to hold space for people to ask the question, "what'

Douglas D. Germann, Sr. 76066.515 at compuserve.com
Sat Jul 17 12:37:07 PDT 2004


Zelle--

Thought-provoking, you! Thank you Zelle.

My thinking has been going in a slightly different direction recently, and
that prompts the way I replied to you previously, and now.

It is becoming clearer to me that we are on a path of evolution, and that
the next steps are to consciously evolve the species called humankind, and
in my view, toward what is good, life-enhancing, beauty. To go one step
further, evolution is leading us to do this together. Conversation is the
main tool I see to make this happen. Meg Wheatley says Conversation is how
we humans think together. I would add, evolve together. This is why it
seems clear to me that Harrison is seeing OST as a halfway technology: it
is on the way to conscious evolution. Perhaps more on that later.

So what I see in society is a process of breathing. One person comes up
with a wonderful new idea. He or She takes it to the group (1 or more other
people, with or without the benefit of OST), and it either dies or grows
there. If it lives, then several people take it back home and noodle on it.
Then they come back to the group, and maybe it is the same group and maybe
it is many groups. If it is something which adds to life, life evolves.

If we could but get intentional about it.... <sigh>

That's what our conversation is about, isn't it--getting intentional about
evolving humankind?

So long way around the barn to respond directly to what you have noticed!
When you see people getting empassioned in an OST, and then losing that
passion as they go back to the "real" world, what I see is this: They have
been in a group of engaged, responsible, passionate people. Then they go
back to the cocoon/cubicle in their corporation. That is when the despair
sets in.

And as Harrison says, that despair is what we want to see, where we want to
lead people. For once they are that far in the grief process, then they may
be open to the question, What are you going to do for the rest of your
life?

So yes, we do need death. We need to get past the stuff we need to get rid
of, to make space (open space) for the birth of our life.

I am beginning to see that the passion and responsibility of the individual
is indeed limited, but that of the group, being connected to the open
space, is practically, if not totally, infinite. And so if we keep people
connected to the open space, which means keep inviting the conversations,
then we have brought about one more step of conscious evolution.

What do you think?

                              :-Doug.
                              Seeking people making change.

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 "what'
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What do you think?

keep inviting the conversations, and encourage others to invite the
conversations...
then we have brought about one more step of conscious evolution.

www.ashleycoop.blogspot.com


> [Original Message]
> From: Douglas D. Germann, Sr. <76066.515 at compuserve.com>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Date: 7/17/2004 2:37:22 PM
> Subject: Is there a need to hold space for people to ask the question,
"what'
>
> Zelle--
>
> Thought-provoking, you! Thank you Zelle.
>
> My thinking has been going in a slightly different direction recently, and
> that prompts the way I replied to you previously, and now.
>
> It is becoming clearer to me that we are on a path of evolution, and that
> the next steps are to consciously evolve the species called humankind, and
> in my view, toward what is good, life-enhancing, beauty. To go one step
> further, evolution is leading us to do this together. Conversation is the
> main tool I see to make this happen. Meg Wheatley says Conversation is how
> we humans think together. I would add, evolve together. This is why it
> seems clear to me that Harrison is seeing OST as a halfway technology: it
> is on the way to conscious evolution. Perhaps more on that later.
>
> So what I see in society is a process of breathing. One person comes up
> with a wonderful new idea. He or She takes it to the group (1 or more
other
> people, with or without the benefit of OST), and it either dies or grows
> there. If it lives, then several people take it back home and noodle on
it.
> Then they come back to the group, and maybe it is the same group and maybe
> it is many groups. If it is something which adds to life, life evolves.
>
> If we could but get intentional about it.... <sigh>
>
> That's what our conversation is about, isn't it--getting intentional about
> evolving humankind?
>
> So long way around the barn to respond directly to what you have noticed!
> When you see people getting empassioned in an OST, and then losing that
> passion as they go back to the "real" world, what I see is this: They have
> been in a group of engaged, responsible, passionate people. Then they go
> back to the cocoon/cubicle in their corporation. That is when the despair
> sets in.
>
> And as Harrison says, that despair is what we want to see, where we want
to
> lead people. For once they are that far in the grief process, then they
may
> be open to the question, What are you going to do for the rest of your
> life?
>
> So yes, we do need death. We need to get past the stuff we need to get rid
> of, to make space (open space) for the birth of our life.
>
> I am beginning to see that the passion and responsibility of the
individual
> is indeed limited, but that of the group, being connected to the open
> space, is practically, if not totally, infinite. And so if we keep people
> connected to the open space, which means keep inviting the conversations,
> then we have brought about one more step of conscious evolution.
>
> What do you think?
>
>                               :-Doug.
>                               Seeking people making change.
>
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