Modesty & 5 Simultaneous Open Spaces

[BJ Peters]

This conversation is most interesting and engaging! I'm reading Robert
W Fuller's book, "Somebodies and Nobodies," which is about rankism and
the abuse that people in power often feel entitled to perpetrate on
"nobodies.". He, too, states that hierarchy serves a purpose and is not
intrinsically wrong or evil.

Best to all --BJ
On Sunday, March 28, 2004, at 08:43 AM, chris macrae wrote:

> Michael wrote
> I find it productive to look at "hierarchy" as a "given" in all
> systems and organizations without the popular stigma attached to the
> term (I looked it up in the Unabridged and there it is almost
> exclusively documented with that negative stigma attached). What
> would a system or organization look like in which hierarchy is
>
> Chris writes:
> I would like to raise the question differently : what makes hierarchy
> useful in an organisation as people system and what makes it
> destructive
> of human relationships. For example too much hierarchy makes people
> afraid to pass bad news up the organisation, and thence the
> organisation
> fails to learn even as the environment changes
>
> Hierarchy is productive when it includes and practices ideas such as:
> Pervasive fairness is led around here
>
> Someone does need to be charged with ultimately making biggest
> decisions
> of each type but we know who that is for each type and explanations are
> made as to how decisions were reached
>
> The top should not confuse its authority to make particular decisions
> with bossing people in personal relationships
>
> 'Need to know' should only be exercised for proven special reasons and
> then
> limited time periods. Hierarchy must ensure transparency both
> internally
> and across boundaries of organisations on eg safety and other critical
> responsibility issues
>
> Measurements should always be questioned for their assumptions
>
> Unfortunately, because hierarchy/power of big often compounds over time
> in very different manners than this, it is if I recall Harrison's
> c-language correctly the primary cause of Confusion- trying to rule
> over
> Conflict-situation and change forces where the very idea that one side
> can rule without others have equal rights to participate is one of the
> biggest hidden agendas in any true reconciliation process.
>
> Usually the Primacy of Open Space is to take hierarchy completely out
> of
> the equation while it holds the space for people to respect each other
> as people, and see what sprit and innovation that brings to the circle
>
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