2108 -- Remember the Number and the sponsor and...
Gabriela Ender
gabriela.ender at OpenSpace-Online.com
Wed May 7 23:13:26 PDT 2003
Dear Michael,
its funny to write you in English.
I have excactly the same opinion and experience regarding "courage and OST".
Sponsors, which decides to open the space for participation and OST are the
one, who are courageously ... in your present pioneer work ...
congratulations to that formidable courage of your sponsors! And a big
congratulation also to your good orga-team!
Its also my opinion, that good facilitators don´t need courage to do their
work ... they need trust in the well known "key ingredients" of OST and
need good experiences in change facilitation. Additionally facilitators have
the responsiblity to check the setting, givens, circumstances around the
planned event in order to care for quality.
Pioneer-work has always to do with courage. The funny thing is, that many
people say to me, that they would never have the courage to develope
OpenSpace-Online. I always answere, that I don´t feel any courage ... I only
followed my deep trust, that it will work ... I just started to develope
this ... I prepared, prepared and prepared, and the result is, that it
works.
I see this huge OST also as a pioneer work, and from my outside view
regarding the conference seeting (embedded in a 4 days conference, 2000
people, and only one day) I am not sure, if I would have had the courage. I
shared my personal concerns in that special case in appreciation and respect
for your great work! I am happy for you, that everything works so well ...
and I still think, that in that case also the two facilitators were brave
;-)
Thanks, Michael and
see you also at the Berliner OSonOS in June
Gabriela
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From: "Pannwitz, Michael M" <mmpanne at snafu.de>
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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: 2108 -- Remember the Number and the sponsor and...
> Dear Gabriela,
> even though Harrison, Hans-Georg, Mia, Serpil, Barbara, Daniel,
> Michael jr., Susanne, Malte, Ute, Christine, Joe, three of my grand
> children creating bumble bees and butterflies on huge posters under
> the guidance of Sabine and filling sandbags at the Baltic beach as
> anchors for the balloons and me spent a lot of time getting ready
> for this event (not forgetting the 150 plus other people in the
> support staff: toilet ladies, cooks, technicians of all sorts,
> waitresses, maintenance, truck drivers, tent builders,
> security,......) apparently managed ok....
> the guys with the courage are the sponsors who opened the space:
> Albrecht and Brigitte Mahr and their associates.
> But most important from where I stand were the powers of
> selforganisation which we certainly welcomed to do their stuff and
> them doing it all for free.
> I sort of suspect that the more I rely on those forces - after having
> paid close attention to all the details - the more I see them unfold
> especially in the direction of creating what some are calling peace.
> See you at the osonos in Denmark
> mmp
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> On Wed, 7 May 2003 23:13:44 +0200, Gabriela Ender wrote:
> >
> >Dear Chris, dear Birgitt, and dear Lisa!
> >
> . What I
> >tried to express was, that I admire the courage of Harrison and Michael =
> >very much, because I believe, that I would have had too much concerns =
> >regarding the setting - not the number of people. Our conversation of =
> >today helped me to think about all that again ... and to reframe!
> >
> >Thanks again, dear colleagues!
> >Gabriela
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael M Pannwitz
> boscop
> Draisweg 1
> 12209 Berlin, Germany
> FON +49 - 30-772 8000 FAX +49 - 30-773 92 464
> www.michaelmpannwitz.de
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>From Thu May 8 09:04:42 2003
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Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 09:04:42 +0200
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"Christiane Hoinka, Hans-Georg Wicke" schrieb:
> ..together with 10 other wonderful people I was assisting in this
> extraordinary OS. As an assistant I had the chance to get a lot of
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> that seems the first time we hear something about
> the importance of assistance in OS.
> assistance in preparing
> assistance in opening and holding space
> assistance in documentation
> assistance in witnessing the process.
> not at least it´s good assistance
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> to be totally present but totally unvisible!
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> chapeau !
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> florian
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE> <font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>..together
with 10 other wonderful people I was assisting in this extraordinary OS.
As an assistant I had the chance to get a lot of (probably additional)
impressions, .</font></font></font>
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<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>dear christiane,
dear hans georg,</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>big applause</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>fantastic</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>that seems the
first time we hear something about</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>the importance
of assistance in OS.</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>assistance in
preparing</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>assistance in
opening and holding space</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>assistance in
documentation</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>assistance in
witnessing the process.</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>not at least
it´s good assistance</font></font></font>
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to the facilitator</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>to be totally
present but totally unvisible!</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>chapeau !</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>florian</font></font></font>
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<br>florian fischer
<br>begleitung im wandel
<br>muenchener 6
<br>10779 berlin
<br>fon 0049.30. 2116752
<br>fax 0049.30. 2115943
<br><a href="mailto:info at ff-wey.com">mailto:info at ff-wey.com</a>
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>From Thu May 8 06:23:33 2003
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Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 06:23:33 -0700
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Hi.
Here is an input from a colleague of mine . . .
"Hi Mark and Peggy. I facilitated several open space circles with
children within a wide age range.
One in particular had children as young as three and as old as 19.
The key (as far as my experience)
is to play "bonding" games in the beginning. This allows for
everyone to know each other and builds
respect. The older kids end up nurturing the younger ones, and the
younger ones look up to the older
ones. This is the way it's supposed to be. We adults have a lot to
learn! There are several websites
and books that have great group games. I'd be happy to go into more
detail if needed. Let me know.
Alana Karran
Executive Director, Voices of Children"
Mark R. Jones
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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerard
Muller
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:15 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: OS with kids - please advice
Dear All,
I have been asked to facilitate an Open Space for a school. The theme
will be: "What school do we want to have in the future, and how do we
create it ?"
When discussing who should participate, the conclusion at this moment is
the Board, the schools staff, parents, children and a couple of others
who have
a say about or expertise in this.
My question is about the children. This school has children from 6-16
years old. The preparation group I am working with feels the older
classes could participate. I expect also the younger ones would just do
fine - except that probably they will not be given a choice to
participate or not - parents who want to join the meeting will just take
them along so as to not have to pay for someone to look after them.
Anyone else has any experience with this ?
Greetings from Denmark,
Gerard Muller
Open Space Institute Denmark
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