convergence with

[Seamus McInerney]

Hi Penny,

So therein lies an issue. There is a gap between those things that people care deeply about and those things people are willing to stand up and do something about. OS is a wonderful opportunity, with safe open space for people to express themselves freely. Without it nothing happens next, I know that. With it, how much happens next?

Maybe it doesn't really matter. Anyone undergoing an OS experience that generates all this 'stuff' cannot fail to be touched by the experience. So, I am wondering what happened to the pioneers of OS. Those groups of 5 to 10 years ago. Where are they now?

Shay



OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU> wrote:

>
> Hi Seamus,
>
> Rather than casting a lone dot, people were looking at where colleagues were
> placing the most dots and narrowing down their decisions that way...kind of
> like the 'party crossover' in the 11th hour of the election. It may increase
> the chances of getting some things done, I'm not sure. I do realize that
> this is the whole point of convergence but in this situation, I suspect the
> final picture didn't reflect some critical things that people cared deeply
> about. Most interesting to me would be the reasons people are converging on
> particular dots, ie, are people assessing who's attached to which
> initiative, second-guessing the likelihood of funding etc.
>
> Penny
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Seamus McInerney <crossroadsfacilitation at eircom.net>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:42 AM
> Subject: Re: convergence with
>
>
> > Hi Penny,
> > When you say "people were looking around and making assessments as to
> where their dots would have the most weight". Do you mean it in terms of
> looking good to others or that they were increasing the chances of getting
> something done.
> >
> > If they were trying to ensure that their favourite was tackled first, is
> this not an expression of passion for the task? As in what do I have to do
> to make this happen?
> >
> > Shay
> >
> > >OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > hi joelle,
> > >
> > > i have a question about convergence in os using these dots; do context
> and
> > > situation have any bearing on how people vote using this method? or put
> > > another way...can there be a peer pressure factor? the reason i'm asking
> is
> > > because i was in a meeting this week -- not os -- where we used sticky
> dots
> > > to converge on a large number of strategic goals the group had
> brainstormed
> > > and felt were important. toward the end of the stickydot-placing-frenzy,
> it
> > > seemed to me that people were looking around and making assessments as
> to
> > > where their dots would have the most weight. it seemed to lose purity at
> > > that point. the process became more political for sure.
> > >
> > > any thoughts? Penny
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Joelle Lyons Everett <JLEShelton at aol.com>
> > > To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
> > >
> > >
> > > > Lisa--
> > > >
> > > > This is a question I have wondered about also--but I am not a
> > > mathematician.
> > > >
> > > > One phenomenon that I have observed with almost any method of
> convergence
> > > is
> > > > that a handful of ideas generally come to the top.  Don't know whether
> > > this
> > > > is a mathematical phenomenon or a reflection of underlying agreement
> in
> > > the
> > > > group, which may have been invisible up to this point.  Seems like it
> > > might
> > > > be related to the fact that the same conversation often goes on in
> several
> > > > breakout sessions, regardless of the posted session topic.
> > > >
> > > > There are a lot of things in group dynamics which I can observe but
> not
> > > > explain. And I hope someone has a mathematical formula for deciding
> how
> > > many
> > > > dots to give out.
> > > >
> > > > Joelle
> > > >
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