questions on OS's form
Birgitt Williams
birgitt at mindspring.com
Mon Jul 7 09:14:00 PDT 2003
Peggy,
I smile at your gift to us of your making sure you are clear in what you are
communicating. And as you know, I too believe that for something to be an
OST event, there are elements of the form that define it as an OST event.
The form assists us as humans in our current state of evolution, to access
the essence of life and living (what some of us refer to as the great Open
Space).
There are other forms that also assist us as humans in accessing the essence
of life and living. In group work, for me, this includes Appreciative
Inquiry, Whole Person Process Facilitation, World Cafe, and Calling the
Circle. And then there are various forms of art that assist us in doing this
including poetry, painting(s), music.... And then there are various forms
from the healing arts that assist us in doing this, including color healing,
aromatherapy, meditation, yoga, reiki healing, tai Chi and so on. Each
provides a path to us to consciously access All That Is, to remember what we
know. And for whatever reason, we need these paths, each of us choosing the
ones that work for us.
Blessings,
Birgitt
-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]On Behalf Of Peggy
Holman
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 5:00 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: questions on OS's form
I find myself still pondering what feels like a contradiction in my answer
to Birgit's question. It has to do with the essence and form of Open Space.
Raffi described the meeting he attended saying:
>But the energy of the sessions felt very much like OS. I wouldn't call
>it full OS.
and then said:
>I am inclined to believe that in their hearts the facilitators trusted
>the space would be opened and that internal opening allowed for the
>space to open externally.
Of the two meetings I described, the corporate one didn't even have the
spirit of an OS. The second one did to an extent, more like Raffi's
description. So, I would say, these gatherings exhibited a bit of the
essence of OS.
So, on the one hand, I would say form isn't necessary when the essence shows
up unaided. That said, the form of OST is useful (i.e., the circle, the
law, principles and marketplace) because it just about guarantees that
self-organization happens and spirit emerges. Without the form, I wouldn't
call a gathering an Open Space meeting, although the space may well be open.
So, don't know if anyone else felt the need for more detail, but I feel
better!
>From still sunny Seattle (and thinking thoughts of travel to Denmark),
Peggy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peggy Holman" <peggy at OPENCIRCLECOMPANY.COM>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: questions on OS's form
> Birgitt,
>
> Good question! You help me test my thinking. I would not call something
an
> open space event without the circle, the law and the principles.
> That said, taking responsibility for what you care about in the context of
> the whole, is at the heart of what makes open space more than a meeting
> methodology for me. As a personal life practice, this is essence guides
me.
> As a collective practice, coming together periodically (that design
element
> of breath) in a circle, speaking the law and the principles, and creating
a
> marketplace seems to matter.
>
> Peggy
>
> P.S. As I re-read my message, one thing that I didn't make clear is that
I
> would not have called either of the meetings I described open space
events.
> To me, it was a misuse of the name.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Birgitt Williams" <birgitt at MINDSPRING.COM>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: questions on OS's form
>
>
> > Peggy,
> > along that theme of one more thing not to do, am I understanding
correctly
> > that for you, so long as people "take responsibility for what they care
> > about in the context of the whole" that is enough---no circle needed, no
> > principles stated and so on. Or am I understanding your words correctly?
> >
> > Blessings to you,
> > Birgitt
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]On Behalf Of Peggy
> > Holman
> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 4:42 PM
> > To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> > Subject: Re: questions on OS's form
> >
> >
> > Raffi,
> >
> > A comment on the OS you attended with:
> >
> > >no walking in a circle (the two co-facilitators sat at the head of the
> > room)
> >
> > and Harrison's response:
> > >Walking the circle focuses and centers the group. If the group is
already
> > focused, and knows where it is, save the effort and sit down.
> >
> > I've attended 2 sessions called OS where there was no circle or stating
of
> > the principles and the law.
> >
> > One was a corporate setting with lots of tables. They had some
> > pre-determined topics "just in case". No surprise: the only topics were
> the
> > pre-selected ones. The work of focus and centering, which creates space
> by
> > defining its edges was not in their consicousness and therefore not
done.
> >
> > The other setting was the Leadership Institute of Seattle. This was a
> group
> > in which most people knew each other. They had common values from
working
> > together over time. In this setting, while people sat in little circles
> of
> > 3 at the opening, there was no issue with sessions getting posted. I
did
> > notice that people did not use their two feet at all to travel between
> > sessions. So something was lost in the mix.
> >
> >
> > So, what is the essence? I continue to use that wonderful design lesson
> > from Harrison: what's one less thing to do and have the experience be
> > whole?
> >
> > I've come to believe the essence of open space is taking responsiblity
for
> > what you care about in the context of the whole. This to me is the law
of
> > two feet. The principles flow from this way of being. Circles help.
> > Naming the law and the principles make them much more visible.
> >
> > Peggy
> >
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>From Mon Jul 7 10:13:45 2003
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:13:45 -0700
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Or of course a couple of Canadian variants: =93dumb as a bag of =
hammers=94
and =93smart like a bean=94 (from the Saskatchewan Ukrainian expression
=93strong like an ox, smart like a bean.=94)
=20
Chris,
(who is sometimes not the sharpest tool in the shed and sometimes one
sandwich short of a picnic.)
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-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
Harrison Owen
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:55 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: dufuses
=20
At 05:45 PM 7/4/2003 +0200, Susanne Hildebrand wrote:
And still I=B4m chewing on things like power, economic constraints, =
subtle
domination structures.
no questions yet. just - what is a dufus? ein Doofie vielleicht?
Alternatives might be -- "not the brightest candle on the cake," or
"playing with half a deck of cards."=20
Harrison
Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Drive
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phone 301-365-2093
Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com
<http://www.openspaceworld.com/> =20
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bean”
(from the Saskatchewan Ukrainian expression “strong like an ox, =
smart
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, July 06, =
2003 3:55
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
dufuses</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>And still I=B4m chewing on things like power, economic =
constraints,
subtle<br>
domination structures.<br>
no questions yet. just - what is a dufus? ein Doofie =
vielleicht?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Alternatives might be -- "not the brightest candle on the =
cake," or
"playing with half a deck of cards." <br>
<br>
Harrison<br>
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Harrison Owen<br>
7808 River Falls Drive<br>
Potomac, MD 20854 USA<br>
phone 301-365-2093<br>
Open Space Training <a href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.com/" =
eudora=3Dautourl>www.openspaceworld.com</a>
<br>
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Personal website <a =
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