Going deeper, taking deeper

[Michael Herman]

the more we relax our minds, the more we see the depth that's already always
there.   is your mind more relaxed as a participant than as a facilitator?
might be the only difference.



"Douglas D. Germann, Sr." wrote:

> Ralph--
>
> You sure are tough on me! <grin> And I needed it.
>
> It is important to remember what you say that even shallowness can happen.
> On the other hand, I have seen Michael Herman invite people to go deeply,
> and they do. So that is what I want to explore, not just in this thread,
> but in life.
>
>  << You cannot know what people are capable of
>
> True, in specifics, but just about everybody I know is capable of going
> more deeply than they habitually do. In that sense, nobody ever gets "deep
> enough"--so that is not my hope. (Or at least I hope it is not <grin>).
>
> What would paying attention to depth look like? Well, it might look like
> what Michael Herman says he pays attention to. Or it might be noticing the
> we instead of the I or instead of the trying to remember the various things
> I want or need to say next. I'm not sure. That's why I asked the question.
> What would it look like to you?
>
> Well, I don't know that the people in the room "should" have been any
> deeper--just that I would like to see as much connection and Spirit as
> possible. How did I know some people went deep? At the final circle in the
> evening news--we did a one word how do you feel circle, and we got words
> like "connected" and "joy" and "overwhelmed." But we also got "educated"
> from a couple people, and to me that seemed more surface. Often, this
> circle is my barometer of such things.
>
> Is open space not a form of meditation by the facilitator, as you suggest?
> Seems like it is, for some people, yes?
>
>  << You can "communicate" all the spirit you want, but if folks are not
>  << interested in spirit (and who says they must be?), it'll go right past
>  << them. Look, open space is many, many things, but it's not a religion.
>
> Ralph, I agree with you 100%.
>
> OS is however a place where we are (or perhaps I should say I want to be)
> opening space for Spirit to show up. Re-lig-ion binds, but Spirit is of the
> wind, free. That is what I seek: to free the spirit of men and women to be
> as large as they can be. If we stay in little places, doing the same little
> things we did yesterday, then our Spirit has not been released. So, if you
> were to ask me what going deeper means to me, it means this sort of
> freeing, inviting, and (ironically) going higher.
>
>  << > What is your practice?
>  <<
>  << Beforehand, I think about the value of the group's questions and
> missions
>  << to the world and find their connection to me.  I call up the place
> within
>  << me that enables me to support what they do or seek.  Then I open the
>  << space and get out of there.
>
> Thanks, that is great! Could you give me an example of a group's questions
> and their connection to you? This is helpful....
>
>  << Relax.  The open space events you facilitate are about the people who
> show
>  << up and what they're willing to do.
>
> Thank you, Ralph. Also what I needed to hear.
>
> Ralph, thank you for "taking" me deeper on this. <warm smile>
>
>                               :-Doug. Germann
>
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